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    Quote Originally Posted by Loggos View Post
    A bit off-topic sorry, but if we are talking names, is Azem based on anything or is that name a mystery/more of a fantasy name like "Venat"?
    I always assumed it was related to the word "azimuth" - the etymology of which originates in the Arabic word as-sumūt, meaning "the directions" or "the paths". Azimuth is often used in navigation to express direction, and it fits nicely into the idea of the seat of Azem being a traveler. Not to mention that azimuth is also used to describe the sun's position in the sky.

    Or maybe they started with Azeyma, and then just fit Azim and Azem both together with it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by h-alpha View Post
    I always assumed it was related to the word "azimuth" - the etymology of which originates in the Arabic word as-sumūt, meaning "the directions" or "the paths". Azimuth is often used in navigation to express direction, and it fits nicely into the idea of the seat of Azem being a traveler. Not to mention that azimuth is also used to describe the sun's position in the sky.

    Or maybe they started with Azeyma, and then just fit Azim and Azem both together with it?
    There is also the word Azeem from the Arabic language being that it means "Protector, Defender" which is maybe the reason why SE chose this name since the meaning does reflect the role of Azem being a Protector/Defender of the Star.

    Azem's actions, from the current Azem that became WoL and Venat, both reflected this meaning by how they always rush into danger to protect the people of the world while exploring the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by h-alpha View Post
    I always assumed it was related to the word "azimuth" - the etymology of which originates in the Arabic word as-sumūt, meaning "the directions" or "the paths". Azimuth is often used in navigation to express direction, and it fits nicely into the idea of the seat of Azem being a traveler. Not to mention that azimuth is also used to describe the sun's position in the sky.

    Or maybe they started with Azeyma, and then just fit Azim and Azem both together with it?

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    There is also the word Azeem from the Arabic language being that it means "Protector, Defender" which is maybe the reason why SE chose this name since the meaning does reflect the role of Azem being a Protector/Defender of the Star.

    Azem's actions, from the current Azem that became WoL and Venat, both reflected this meaning by how they always rush into danger to protect the people of the world while exploring the world.

    Both possibilities sound very fitting. Regardless of whether one (or none) is true I think I'd like to adopt both. I like the duality of them. The second embodies something we do for others: help them, protect them. The first one embodies something we do for ourselves: travelling, adventure. I like the idea that we have a name that encapsulates both aspects of our personality and that also gives room for our own ambitions/interests instead of only being other people's WoL. (I like being a WoL in the sense of helping/protecting others but evidently we are more than that and also exist as an individual person behind that role. So it's nice to have a name that reflects both: the "public" and the "personal".)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loggos View Post
    Both possibilities sound very fitting. Regardless of whether one (or none) is true I think I'd like to adopt both. I like the duality of them. The second embodies something we do for others: help them, protect them. The first one embodies something we do for ourselves: travelling, adventure. I like the idea that we have a name that encapsulates both aspects of our personality and that also gives room for our own ambitions/interests instead of only being other people's WoL. (I like being a WoL in the sense of helping/protecting others but evidently we are more than that and also exist as an individual person behind that role. So it's nice to have a name that reflects both: the "public" and the "personal".)
    I love that idea, combining the two. Honestly, it embodies the idea of what the title of Azem means, what its role was in Ancient society, and what kind of people were chosen to hold the seat. What are the qualities that Venat and the WoL have in common? They wander the lands of the world, they get to know its people, they help them when they're in need, they protect them when they're in danger. This, I think, is what it meant to be Azem, and both of those possible origins for the name together describe it perfectly.
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    My maybe-pick for Azem's true name is Orpheus, who ventured into the underworld and returned. We have a better track record of rescuing our loved ones successfully though.


    Quote Originally Posted by vormela View Post
    So my take from the raid release is that I am constantly looking for Azem because they are "always" there when SHTF but are somehow preoccupied now when SHTF.
    My understanding is that Azem is always there when stuff hits the fan and the Convocation aren't interested in doing anything to fix it. Here, and at least for now, they are interested and have sent a representative or ally to investigate.

    It was discussed in the raid story that if Themis reported the current state of affairs to the Convocation now, they would probably order the whole place sealed off or destroyed (I forget which) and abandon the warders to their fate. That sounds like the sort of thing that would spur Azem to action.

    Of course, there's the added complication that they somehow seem to have predicted we are going to arrive to help Themis, to the point of telling him to expect us. So maybe they also know we'll have it under control?


    Quote Originally Posted by vormela View Post
    The kid reminded me of Ramsa with a wig on.
    I thought so too. Definitely looks like his face, though I wonder if that face model got reused for Viera model pieces anyway.
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