Jobs start level and why it is bad to start so high

[DinahDemiurge]

On the one hand, sure.
On the other hand, by level 50, Reaper basically just has the 1-2-3 rotation, and doesn't get to do any of the reaping until 70.
Doing that from level 1 would be *EXCRUCIATING*

Maybe they shouldn't make jobs boring in the early game then?

[Saraide]

I agree I think all jobs should start at level 1. It kind of robs the experience otherwise.

What experience are you talking about here exactly? Doing sastasha for millionth time? If you want to have that kind of experience you are free to queue up for sastasha right now. You could go through every leveling dungeon in order if that's how you want to experience a new job, nothing is stopping you from doing that. That doesnt mean that it's useful or valueable for everyone.

[Krotoan]

I love how people say its the video game without taking into account why people play video games sometimes.


Many people play them to let their inner desires run free, desires that would get you locked up or killed in real life. Desires that are always apart of a person that they use the games as an way to be their inner self

.. so you mean enjoying the process right? Like I said 3 or 4 times already right?


this still doesn't make your particular enjoyment any more or less worthwhile or valid than anyone elses.

Someone who plays Barbie's Horse Stable Management Simulator and enjoys making the saddles pretty and painting the house chartreuse with pink trim isn't better or worse than gamerbro2069 who grinds COD all week and is top 10 in every ladder. As long as they're enjoying themselves doing what they're doing and NOT TELLING OTHERS THAT THEIR ENJOYMENT IS PATHETIC.. all is fine.

[Saraide]

First off the shoe fits on both feet saying leveling doesn't matter or excusing it from existing to a reasonable point and be slowly erased your doing the exact same as your accussing me as.

The difference is if you want to do that fine, but do not delete and erase the experience of growth to power from people because your to lazy to gain and work for levels.

if you want to value it fine value it but do not erase what others can and some do value

You are ignoring the context of the quote. Leveling doesnt matter for being good at that job or not, that requires the will to improve and you can have that or not regardless of the starting level. I've said it multiple times in this thread already: if you wish to go through every leveling dungeon in order starting from sastasha you are completely free to do so. You could queue up right now. If you find that fun, go for it, be the totorak reaper you've always wanted to be.

[Xaruko_Nexume]

OP, you and I are relics of gaming. We come from a time long past where 99% of what made an MMORPG an MMORPG was leveling. The game was about the journey, not the destination. These days, people just want to get max level as fast as possible, so they can complete "content" as fast as possible, getting max rewards as fast as possible, with as little resistance as possible. Most people see leveling as an obstacle. Something in the way, to be overcome so they can "play the game" as fast as possible.

[kejakalope]

I like the leveling.

I do not like the leveling in Aurum Vale. Let's skip past that to where they learned to make good dungeons.

[Saraide]

OP, you and I are relics of gaming. We come from a time long past where 99% of what made an MMORPG an MMORPG was leveling. The game was about the journey, not the destination. These days, people just want to get max level as fast as possible, so they can complete "content" as fast as possible, getting max rewards as fast as possible, with as little resistance as possible. Most people see leveling as an obstacle. Something in the way, to be overcome so they can "play the game" as fast as possible.

Ok boomer, I bet you walked uphill both ways from and to school aswell. I hope you have good internet connection in your retirement home.

[Xaruko_Nexume]

Ok boomer, I bet you walked uphill both ways from and to school aswell. I hope you have good internet connection in your retirement home.

Believe it or not, I am a millenial. I started MMMORPG's with EQ Kunark expansion in 8th grade. Nice ageism attempt though.

[Saraide]

Believe it or not, I am a millenial. I started MMMORPG's with EQ Kunark expansion in 8th grade. Nice ageism attempt though.

Boomer is a mindset.

[Xaruko_Nexume]

Boomer is a mindset.

Even if that is true, so what? I take pride in taking a relaxed, "enjoy the ride" approach to gaming, and life in general. But I think I am done letting you troll me an derail the thread.