Jobs start level and why it is bad to start so high

[Krotoan]

did I say it matter irl No i didn't

I said that grinding for power actrually has a purpose other showing off how pretty and shiny you can be lol

And that purpose is more important or valuable than being pretty and shiny because? You say so? It matters to you?

Laughable.

[FusiaRain]

And that purpose is more important or valuable than being pretty and shiny because? You say so? It matters to you?

Laughable.

because just standing around in a cornor in Limsa showing off your pretty shinyness is just pathetic lol to the point i feel sorry for people that value it

[Krotoan]

because just standing around in a cornor in Limsa showing off your pretty shinyness is just pathetic lol to the point i feel sorry for people that value it

So.. to make yourself feel better about valuing paying money to spend your time killing imaginary monsters to make someone who isn't you imginarily stronger you belittle people who like seeing pretty things?


Dude.. it's all video games. People are having fun, your fun isn't "better" or more worthwhile than theirs.

[FusiaRain]

So.. to make yourself feel better about valuing paying money to spend your time killing imaginary monsters to make someone who isn't you imginarily stronger you belittle people who like seeing pretty things?


Dude.. it's all video games. People are having fun, your fun isn't "better" or more worthwhile than theirs.

A not belittle just stating the fact playing dress up isn't a value that's a benefit of doing things OF VALUE...

that's like saying I belittle a chef for putting value on the meat before cooking it lol.


Also Its more about Working, grinding pouring in hours to get stronger to not only kill monsters but flat out butcher the players in duels/pvp

[Krotoan]

A not belittle just stating the fact playing dress up isn't a value that's a benefit of doing things OF VALUE...

like.. killing imaginary monsters? Sorry.. that has no value either. Putting together an aesthetically pleasing outfit is just as valuable a skill.. in fact an eye for aesthetically pleasing arrangements is a marketable skill. Much more so than anything you'd develop mindlessly grinding monsters to be "stronger".

And calling people "pathetic" for liking something.. is belittling them.

that's like saying I belittle a chef for putting value on the meat before cooking it lol.

Being a chef is a difficult skill to learn that produces real results that are of real value to people. Incomparable to someone who becomes marginally good at a video game or in your example simply sinks hours into it. You are putting value on something worthless and saying it's better than something else virtual and worthless. Just because you value the process, doesn't mean you're better than people who value the results.

Also Its more about Working, grinding pouring in hours to get stronger to not only kill monsters but flat out butcher the players in duels/pvp

If you are playing a game as "work", you are doing the whole thing wrong. You should be having fun and on that note again, your enjoyment of the process is no better or worse than someones enjoyment of the results. I don't play games because I find the investment "worthwhile" or particularly fulfilling. I play games because I enjoy the experience and in that there is value.

[FusiaRain]

like.. killing imaginary monsters? Sorry.. that has no value either. Putting together an aesthetically pleasing outfit is just as valuable a skill.. in fact an eye for aesthetically pleasing arrangements is a marketable skill. Much more so than anything you'd develop mindlessly grinding monsters to be "stronger".

And calling people "pathetic" for liking something.. is belittling them.



Being a chef is a difficult skill to learn that produces real results that are of real value to people. Incomparable to someone who becomes marginally good at a video game or in your example simply sinks hours into it. You are putting value on something worthless and saying it's better than something else virtual and worthless. Just because you value the process, doesn't mean you're better than people who value the results.



If you are playing a game as "work", you are doing the whole thing wrong. You should be having fun and on that note again, your enjoyment of the process is no better or worse than someones enjoyment of the results. I don't play games because I find the investment "worthwhile" or particularly fulfilling. I play games because I enjoy the experience and in that there is value.

lol You imply I can in real life build weapons and genetic modify monsters to wipe people out for fun to enjoy the work? Working at gaining power is a thing people can enjoy, just like grinding a Pokémon's evs to max so you wipe the floor with the inferior ones. Because that is what i take pleasure in the power that brings chaos to make things interesting

[Krotoan]

lol You imply I can in real life build weapons and genetic modify monsters to wipe people out for fun to enjoy the work?

I know a blacksmith who makes weapons and other things. I know people who work to create (theoretical) biological weapons and machines that have the potential to kill people. I know people who train their actual bodies to do amazing things.

You compare these to some number values stored on some computer somewhere that you bought by spending some of your real life on inputting other number values. ... hmm. Which one of these pursuits results in something valuable?

Working at gaining power is a thing people can enjoy, just like grinding a Pokémon's evs to max so you wipe the floor with the inferior ones. Because that is what i take pleasure in the power that brings chaos to make things interesting

Yes, you can enjoy it. However my entire point is your enjoyment isn't better or more valuable than anyone elses. Your idea that you're "bringing chaos" to anything is pretty funny though. Again, you're playing a video game. Calm down.

[Saraide]

lol You imply I can in real life build weapons and genetic modify monsters to wipe people out for fun to enjoy the work? Working at gaining power is a thing people can enjoy, just like grinding a Pokémon's evs to max so you wipe the floor with the inferior ones. Because that is what i take pleasure in the power that brings chaos to make things interesting

And because you enjoy that type of game design, everyone else has to aswell or they are considered pathetic? That's how you come across in this thread.