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  1. #261
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    VelKallor's Avatar
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    Vel Kallor
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    Kujata
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Virtually any mention of "DPS" since late Stormblood will refer to rDPS (personal damage plus bonus damage contributed minus bonus damage received). As such, it already comprehensively accounts for any support that is not situational to the point of providing no measurable advantage/throughput.
    Point proven. You are ignoring or dismissing out of hand the contributions BRD brings to the table.

    Using an ability to mitigate damage, remove a debuff and / or provide a shield for another player is a valid contribution.

    Wouldnt you agree?

    You..DO....know what Troubadour does, dont you?
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  2. #262
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    Skiros's Avatar
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    Drake Drakon
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    Jenova
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I can also Repose a mob in a trash pack so that it sleeps for a millisecond before it gets woken up by someone's damage. This is a valid contribution and I deserve to be praised for mitigating 1 DPS worth of damage for the party.
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  3. #263
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Lich
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    Ninja Lv 100
    ACT feels a little pointless atm since we haven't even gotten the first balance patch yet.

    I have a mixed relationship with damage meters, on the one hand I like them because I like to measure the change in dps as gear goes on and make sure I am reaching a certain expectation.
    On the other hand, in cases like this it sucks and feels terrible when you know that you're playing two Jobs correctly and one should be higher but it's *significantly* lower due to balance issues.
    It's a bit demoralizing.

    Ignorance is bliss basically.
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  4. #264
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    RobynDaBank's Avatar
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    Hope Sunflame
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    ACT feels a little pointless atm since we haven't even gotten the first balance patch yet.

    I have a mixed relationship with damage meters, on the one hand I like them because I like to measure the change in dps as gear goes on and make sure I am reaching a certain expectation.
    On the other hand, in cases like this it sucks and feels terrible when you know that you're playing two Jobs correctly and one should be higher but it's *significantly* lower due to balance issues.
    It's a bit demoralizing.

    Ignorance is bliss basically.
    Always like matching your signature with what you post. Somehow it fits each time.
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    Mortal Fist

  5. #265
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    DragonFlyy's Avatar
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    Jasla Angelkin
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    Dalamud is simple little program you download for FFXIV. It has dozens if not hundreds of addons that do various things for the game, by modifying its code. Some as simple as letting you get a quicker launcher. Many things, far more ominous that I wont post here.
    To make sure no misinformation is happening here, it does not modify code. It has a DirectX overlay and reads information, but none gets changed. If you are refering to people who change models/textures, that's another program all together.
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  6. #266
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    MilkieTea's Avatar
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    C'erise Vanesse
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    Maduin
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonFlyy View Post
    To make sure no misinformation is happening here, it does not modify code. It has a DirectX overlay and reads information, but none gets changed. If you are refering to people who change models/textures, that's another program all together.
    Yeah, I'm kind of sick of people being utterly disingenuous when discussing this stuff. Far better to be upfront and fair about what you're talking about, rather than make things out to be bogeymen behind closed doors.
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
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    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

  7. #267
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    Mihari's Avatar
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    Ayumi Mihari
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    Shiva
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    Machinist Lv 100
    I'm working for a law office in Europe and have only read this threat partly, but using a parser in the EU may violating the existing privacy protection laws.

    If a player wants to use a parser for e.g. in a dungeon, trial or raid, he has to ask each other player for permission. Without the permissions of all other players, he is not allowed to track and analyze any data from any player. Yes, also only simple data like doing damage or healing other players in a game are counting as personal data in the EU. From a purely legal point of view, a player in the EU can argue against the player and refer to the EU privcy protection laws.

    I'm not sure if the game is already violating the existing EU privacy protection rules when already showing this data in the chat to other players. Not sure if this is standing in the terms and conditions, which has to be agreed by each player before he can play the game. But also here, the terms and conditions are only agreed to SE and not any other players.
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  8. #268
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    Dr Yeol
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mihari View Post
    I'm working for a law office in Europe and have only read this threat partly, but using a parser in the EU may violating the existing privacy protection laws.

    If a player wants to use a parser for e.g. in a dungeon, trial or raid, he has to ask each other player for permission. Without the permissions of all other players, he is not allowed to track and analyze any data from any player. Yes, also only simple data like doing damage or healing other players in a game are counting as personal data in the EU. From a purely legal point of view, a player in the EU can argue against the player and refer to the EU privcy protection laws.

    I'm not sure if the game is already violating the existing EU privacy protection rules when already showing this data in the chat to other players. Not sure if this is standing in the terms and conditions, which has to be agreed by each player before he can play the game. But also here, the terms and conditions are only agreed to SE and not any other players.
    Even if the source of the information is public? ACT reads the battle log which is available to everyone.
    I understand asking permission if let's say the information was private and not accessible to everyone and you somehow happen to have access to them, you can't share the information without permission.
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  9. #269
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    Mihari's Avatar
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    Ayumi Mihari
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    Shiva
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    Even if the source of the information is public? ACT reads the battle log which is available to everyone.
    I understand asking permission if let's say the information was private and not accessible to everyone and you somehow happen to have access to them, you can't share the information without permission.
    That's exactly the point. Showing the information in the battle log could be already wrong. I'm not sure if SE is already violating the EU privacy protection laws here and must anonymize the data in the battle log with e.g. Player1, Player2, Player 3 instead of showing the character names.

    But also here from purely legal point of view, seeing and getting the players data in the exisitng battle log does not allow any player to track and analyze this data by his own with e.g. a parser. EU laws are very strict here. You are not are allowed to use any data without permission. Yes, that are the strange EU laws.
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  10. #270
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    Pells's Avatar
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    P'lha Tahl
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mihari View Post
    That's exactly the point. Showing the information in the battle log could be already wrong. I'm not sure if SE is already violating the EU privacy protection laws here and must anonymize the data in the battle log with e.g. Player1, Player2, Player 3 instead of showing the character names.

    But also here from purely legal point of view, seeing and getting the players data in the exisitng battle log does not allow any player to track and analyze this data by his own with e.g. a parser. EU laws are very strict here. You are not are allowed to use any data without permission. Yes, that are the strange EU laws.

    Would this data include written text that may be posted on a private forum?
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    Oooh, shiney...

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