Endwalker Main Scenario Commentary & Feedback

[EdwinLi]

This is where things get really wibbly-wobbly-timey-wimey but very simple if you have the right picture in mind.

Our "other self" from the Eighth Calamity timeline does not need to travel back in time at all, and in fact would confuse things for our side of the time divergence if they did. The time loop only happens on our side.

Although the starting point for our time travel trip is after the two timelines diverge, our destination is before the split. What we do there affects "the past of both timelines simultaneously" because they aren't separate things yet.

Therefore it is our presence in Elpis, and ours alone, that is experienced and remembered by the people there.

(Or to look at it another way, if our other self somehow did make it to Elpis prior to their untimely demise, they would be arriving in the same Elpis that we visited ourselves. There is no alternate version of those events.)

In my opinion it is one of those "aboslute point" moments in both timelines but when it happens varies based on events that happened before that absolute point. Absolute points in time is the theory that is said to always happen no matter what a person does but when, how, why, and where it happens varies based on actions since a person will only be able to delay or accelorate the absolute point.

Both will have a version of WoL that appears on Elpis with the same appearance but which version of WoL appears is different.

In G'raha timeline, it is most likely a future version of WoL that is more complete because by then the Ascians have rejoined more shards at that point. It will be this version of WoL who confronts Emet, defeats him, and spark the events of the Final Days in this timeline.

In WoL's timeline, it is our WoL because G'raha actions in changing events of the timeline accelorated events to be sooner.

[Iscah]

In my opinion it is one of those "aboslute point" moments in both timelines but when it happens varies based on events that happened before that absolute point. Absolute points in time is the theory that is said to always happen no matter what a person does but when, how, why, and where it happens varies based on actions since a person will only be able to delay or accelorate the absolute point.

Both will have a version of WoL that appears on Elpis with the same appearance but which version of WoL appears is different.

In G'raha timeline, it is most likely a future version of WoL that is more complete because by then the Ascians have rejoined more shards at that point. It will be this version of WoL who confronts Emet, defeats him, and spark the events of the Final Days in this timeline.

In WoL's timeline, it is our WoL because G'raha actions in changing events of the timeline accelorated events to be sooner.

There are no multiple timelines involved in Elpis. Those events are located in time prior to the split between the "bad future" timeline and ours.

When we travel there, it's not "our Elpis" with a second copy left untouched for another WoL to visit. Everything that happens there forms the past of both timelines together, and our actions become part of the other timeline's history as well as ours.

I tried to map it out as a better explanation. This is still rough but I hope it makes sense.

The key thing to get your mind around is, from the perspective of our current timeline, our visit to Elpis occurred in our past – and from the perspective of someone in the bad timeline, our visit (ours specifically, not an alternate self's) is part of their timeline as well. There doesn't need to be a second alternate event.