FFXIV Girls only discord server

[KohanaAbarai]

Then can you please explain the two tweet threads that were posted 2 posts after the OP of this thread?

Because those two situations are the problematic things that stood out to a good number of people. As such, we've only seen one side of both of those situations, but the examples given have detailed screenshots, conversations and examples showing what occurred, and paints a very unflattering appearance of this discord server.

Those posts are a huge misrepresentation of what we stand for. They are taken entirely out of context as well. Instead of anyone even trying to educate us, what happened was they got pissed off, left and made a whole new story up to shame us for no reason. Again these lies are fabricated. Similar to how the media spews opinions and changes context. Believe what you want we won't budge! The fact is we are being crucified by cancel culture because they refuse to talk things out and educate.. they just want to END things that don't make them happy. All this trouble is unnecessary and a giant waste of everyone's time.. All I ask is for those who don't want to be in this group to go find something else already because all this information still circling is invalid.

[Kolaina]

just because you know what the word "gas lighting" means, doesn't mean you can judge me. I have been auditing the server since I joined. I know exactly whats going on there so if your screen shots mean nothing because they are from a community that is not what we represent and they are being used to miscontrude what our message is into a mesage of hatred. So please spare me your big words. Get on with your mediocre angry hateful life please.

More dishonesty from the “girls only discord server”. It’s easy to be blind to your own bias

[KohanaAbarai]

So your stance is that the two threads, the two people bringing examples against that server, is that they are lying or referring to a different server?

One contains the gender issue as well as an example of a minor being harassed by another member of that discord.

The other contains a very unflattering exchange between a member who was interested in being a streamer for that community and a person of authority for the discord, in which very clearly the streamers who volunteered seem to be being taken advantage of monetarily, unless I am misunderstanding that situation.

People are only asking for clarification on the two examples that were shown. No one that is sane is claiming a 'Girls Only' 14 discord in of itself is wrong. What people are rightly questioning are the two examples given via the tweets with clear screenshots as to what has occured.

Streaming: Streaming? whomever wants to stream for the twitch channel is more than welcomed to do so, so many streamers got their confidence back while streaming for the girls only twitch channel. any donations that are made, are being offered back to the streamers. the rest of the earnings (there aren't any), but if there were, would be cover the costs of the many prizes we offer around the server, from our own pockets.

That situation was BLOWN way out of context NO ONE is forced to stream for us. It's optional as support. If they don't want to do it they don't have too.. Why people thing we are taking advantage is so odd when its all volunteer!

[Blossoming]

Those posts are a huge misrepresentation of what we stand for. They are taken entirely out of context as well. Instead of anyone even trying to educate us, what happened was they got pissed off, left and made a whole new story up to shame us for no reason. Again these lies are fabricated. Similar to how the media spews opinions and changes context. Believe what you want we won't budge! The fact is we are being crucified by cancel culture because they refuse to talk things out and educate.. they just want to END things that don't make them happy. All this trouble is unnecessary and a giant waste of everyone's time.. All I ask is for those who don't want to be in this group to go find something else already because all this information still circling is invalid.

You sure have no problem telling other people off though because they dare question you, oh that’s right I’m supposed to be going back to my “mediocre angry hateful life” as you put it but oh you guys aren’t toxic at all! It’s all lies! Ignore all the multiple people proving otherwise!

[KohanaAbarai]

And you are?

In a court of law everything you all are stating is slander. Anything that can remotely cause hinderance to growth is Slander and accusations.. so I ask again, who are you? Are you an ex community member? Are you just a disgruntled cancel culture person? or some basement goblin looking to continually troll this community? Please Explain your stance because I honestly cannot understand why you continue even bother??? IT'S A VOLUNTEER COMMUNITY...

[HollowedDoll]

These responses aren't exactly helping public perception, "Believe what you want we won't budge"
Like, at least try to refute the points made against you? Provide context for out of context stuff? There's at least some concerns that need to be addressed, and I don't mean the entitled people who want to be part of every group at the same time.

[Caurcas]

Okay, legit question. Why is discord drama being spilled out onto an offical game forum? Like, sure the memes have been okay but really why here? Isn't this better suited for reddit or something?

[ArkenaeuxBelmont]

Those posts are a huge misrepresentation of what we stand for. They are taken entirely out of context as well. Instead of anyone even trying to educate us, what happened was they got pissed off, left and made a whole new story up to shame us for no reason. Again these lies are fabricated. Similar to how the media spews opinions and changes context. Believe what you want we won't budge! The fact is we are being crucified by cancel culture because they refuse to talk things out and educate.. they just want to END things that don't make them happy. All this trouble is unnecessary and a giant waste of everyone's time.. All I ask is for those who don't want to be in this group to go find something else already because all this information still circling is invalid.

No one is asking you to "budge". Also any entity is open to public critique and criticism.

How are the examples given a misrepresentation of what you stand for? Can you provide examples to disprove the claims that were brought against the server? Of course, you don't have to defend yourself or rebut the accusations at all. However, if you choose to ignore, then criticism is a consequence of that stand point. You cannot willfully then cry victim if you do not provide a defense, and you have a right to defend yourselves.

I'm not being confrontational, only merely observing and commenting on what I see. I see two very well documented examples that paint this discord in a very bad light. A good number of others are also of that viewpoint.

As a personal issue, it has nothing to do with me. I'm not angry, outraged, spewing "filth" or attacking in anyway. Merely commenting on what I have observed. My opinions and stances are always that, opinions based on empirical evidence I can see. The fact stands that I can see clear information showing how that discord is being morally questionable, and the only defense you've offered is that "they are lying."

'He Said She Said' doesn't work when there is tangible evidence.

[KohanaAbarai]

At this point in time, my team will not be responding to this thread any further. We have dedicated enough time and spoke on our part. If these false accusation continue to fester, that's on you not us. We've been growing and changing and learning and continuing to up our security. The fact that you all continue to bash us makes no sense other than that some one is bitter and petty. We've done our part, just move on because it's a volunteer community.. if you don't want to be apart of it don't but don't manipulate others from checking out and judging for yourself... that's just wrong.

[Blossoming]

You can stop trying to make half hearted attempts at insulting me with names and other assumptions and give some context, but something tells me you won’t.