FFXIV Girls only discord server

[Blossoming]

It’s funny because on their own official twitter page when some of the stuff surfaced recently, they are “apologizing and re-evaluating” but today in here calling the ones who exposed them liars and spreading misinformation.

[strawberrycake]

I'm pretty sure the answer is "no", just like in any other place on the internet or even in real life.

I'm very aware of that, but my point is that, this situation has made people uneasy about this server. And this person can get and show proof, and is choosing not to. So how can you help people avoid their fears of this server and possibly being abused?

[Hysorn]

This thread was funny, now it's just boring, y'all should probably move on now.

[strawberrycake]

Glad female abuse is funny to you

[Kolaina]

Glad female abuse is funny to you

Female abuse? You mean the fem on fem abuse? That’s all that’s come to light in this thread. I refer to the grooming.
Let’s not act like the perpetrators are only on one side here.

[strawberrycake]

Given that it seems to be all females involved from what I've seen I figured the general use term would work

[Batbrat]

So we agree that some males are problematic while many others are not, and we agree that women can be venomous. In other words, you are going to find bad people everywhere. This does not concur with the deceitful claim that removing males altogether is going to make a place "safe".

I believe this is merely a server for people who have personal issues against boys, which is actually okay with me so long as they don't generalise in such a manner.

Why do you need someone to break down a million reasons why they don't want to be around someone else? I don't care about this server, at this point it's irrelevant despite the argument going on. What I take issue with is why so many of you have so much vitriol toward women who want to be around other women but DON'T have that same vitriol toward men who want to be around men. This is what I need you to ask yourself. "Why do women expressing a boundary set me off, but men don't?" The most common answer is, "Well, I EXPECT men to be "jerks", but not women" Which is extremely misogynistic, because it implies that you expect all women to be docile and roll over to your wishes and not men. and so when you see ones that don't, it enrages you. You meaning anyone who thinks like this of course.

If there's another explanation you can let us know, but for now it's looking a bit grim. It's looking a bit predictable, I'll have to admit. Because again, no one cared about the boys club. Which is how it always is. We hear about a boys club and we laugh, we roll our eyes, we even think 'good!' or expect it-but we hear a girls club and it needs to be dissected and destroyed immediately whether the person in front of it is problematic or not. We hear about a girls club and the forefront of your thoughts is that it must be inherently evil or somehow attacking someone merely by existing. It's negative, it's exclusionary, it's anti men because all men are this or that!! Surely it can't just be for giggling amongst each other. Clearly something for women is absolutely still about men, right. It's just a little predictable is all I'm saying, but if your viewpoint is different that's be genuinely surprising. Set your feelings about this current messy server aside and think about why in general it ticks you off so bad when it comes to one gender, but not the other. Tell me why boys clubs don't give you this same reaction.

[SahreeYurblu]

You need to educate yourself on the definition of slander. Online statements, by definition, are not slander.

[ArkenaeuxBelmont]

You need to educate yourself on the definition of slander. Online statements, by definition, are not slander.

Especially trying to use the "slander" defense as the only response to actual valid, documented claims that all can see.

[Kolsykol]

Like I'm a girl, can you 100% assure me that I'd be safe joining this server? I've been abused, can you make me believe that I can trust the people in this server to not hurt me and harm me and use me like I'm some toy? I'm asking an honest question.

This can never be guaranteed anywhere.
Not gonna name names because tbh I don't memorize all of it and I cba to look it up atm.
But there's some really big '' activist '' woman in the games industry who runs rampant on Twitter and is on the board of some big game dev organisation.
She has a really really long history of being a real piece of shit garbage person but she gets a pass because she has '' the correct politics '' and is extremely vocal about it to an obnoxious level.

A while ago a whole bunch of women came out and talked about how she had been abusing them behind the scenes and been extremely creepy.
The most infuriating thing is that people argued she deserved a second chance and all that even tho it was very recent and her apology was incredibly half-arsed and the victims didn't buy it at all.

It's true that women in the games industry do get abused and harassed and such more often than men, but it's not true that it's not a big problem for men too and it's also definitely not true that it's just men abusing women.
HR in particular has a big overrepresentation of women and HR is very often the enablers at large studios who gaslight and/ or intimidate victims into silence.

Moral of the story is that women are not a bunch of innocent little flowers who would never hurt a fly, women are just as capable of being pieces of shit as men are.
The reason why men are usually more often bad towards women is because of the physical advantage it's dangerous to a womans physical well-being more directly if she does something bad to a man while it generally isn't for a man to do to a woman.
As soon as you start evening out these things and you get more women in power and more women dominated spaces that barrier is removed and the ugly sides come out.




All of that said I do understand women who want a woman only space because of that too, I am big into fighting games for example and I am all for womens only tournaments because a lot of women feel really uncomfortable or even unsafe to attend tournaments.
There's definitely a lot of creepy guys and people fetishizing them.
You can't get rid of that by having a woman only space but you can minimize at least certain aspects of it ( in particular the sexual ones, but then you also get women like in my above example ).