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    There isn't a streaming situation. Our ladies are vetted, we aren't partnered with anyone. This is all fabrication. There's so much information in these 34 pages, all slander, brought on by people who purposely want to destroy this community. It's an optional community. No one is forcing anyone to join but the slander you are hearing is made from those who could not get their way in the server. I'm just sorry you have he read all of it.

    All the women who volunteer to stream for the FFXIV Girls online channel is 100% volunteer and no one HAS to do it. It's meant for those who want to support not to take advantage. If someone disagrees with it they just don't stream under our handle. How is that wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KohanaAbarai View Post
    There isn't a streaming situation. Our ladies are vetted, we aren't partnered with anyone. This is all fabrication. There's so much information in these 34 pages, all slander, brought on by people who purposely want to destroy this community. It's an optional community. No one is forcing anyone to join but the slander you are hearing is made from those who could not get their way in the server. I'm just sorry you have he read all of it.

    All the women who volunteer to stream for the FFXIV Girls online channel is 100% volunteer and no one HAS to do it. It's meant for those who want to support not to take advantage. If someone disagrees with it they just don't stream under our handle. How is that wrong?
    Bruh your screens are all over twitter. Ya'll really like gaslight people huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KohanaAbarai View Post
    There isn't a streaming situation. Our ladies are vetted, we aren't partnered with anyone. This is all fabrication. There's so much information in these 34 pages, all slander, brought on by people who purposely want to destroy this community. It's an optional community. No one is forcing anyone to join but the slander you are hearing is made from those who could not get their way in the server. I'm just sorry you have he read all of it.

    All the women who volunteer to stream for the FFXIV Girls online channel is 100% volunteer and no one HAS to do it. It's meant for those who want to support not to take advantage. If someone disagrees with it they just don't stream under our handle. How is that wrong?
    Then can you please explain the two tweet threads that were posted 2 posts after the OP of this thread?

    Because those two situations are the problematic things that stood out to a good number of people. As such, we've only seen one side of both of those situations, but the examples given have detailed screenshots, conversations and examples showing what occurred, and paints a very unflattering appearance of this discord server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkenaeuxBelmont View Post
    Then can you please explain the two tweet threads that were posted 2 posts after the OP of this thread?

    Because those two situations are the problematic things that stood out to a good number of people. As such, we've only seen one side of both of those situations, but the examples given have detailed screenshots, conversations and examples showing what occurred, and paints a very unflattering appearance of this discord server.
    Those posts are a huge misrepresentation of what we stand for. They are taken entirely out of context as well. Instead of anyone even trying to educate us, what happened was they got pissed off, left and made a whole new story up to shame us for no reason. Again these lies are fabricated. Similar to how the media spews opinions and changes context. Believe what you want we won't budge! The fact is we are being crucified by cancel culture because they refuse to talk things out and educate.. they just want to END things that don't make them happy. All this trouble is unnecessary and a giant waste of everyone's time.. All I ask is for those who don't want to be in this group to go find something else already because all this information still circling is invalid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KohanaAbarai View Post
    Those posts are a huge misrepresentation of what we stand for. They are taken entirely out of context as well. Instead of anyone even trying to educate us, what happened was they got pissed off, left and made a whole new story up to shame us for no reason. Again these lies are fabricated. Similar to how the media spews opinions and changes context. Believe what you want we won't budge! The fact is we are being crucified by cancel culture because they refuse to talk things out and educate.. they just want to END things that don't make them happy. All this trouble is unnecessary and a giant waste of everyone's time.. All I ask is for those who don't want to be in this group to go find something else already because all this information still circling is invalid.
    No one is asking you to "budge". Also any entity is open to public critique and criticism.

    How are the examples given a misrepresentation of what you stand for? Can you provide examples to disprove the claims that were brought against the server? Of course, you don't have to defend yourself or rebut the accusations at all. However, if you choose to ignore, then criticism is a consequence of that stand point. You cannot willfully then cry victim if you do not provide a defense, and you have a right to defend yourselves.

    I'm not being confrontational, only merely observing and commenting on what I see. I see two very well documented examples that paint this discord in a very bad light. A good number of others are also of that viewpoint.

    As a personal issue, it has nothing to do with me. I'm not angry, outraged, spewing "filth" or attacking in anyway. Merely commenting on what I have observed. My opinions and stances are always that, opinions based on empirical evidence I can see. The fact stands that I can see clear information showing how that discord is being morally questionable, and the only defense you've offered is that "they are lying."

    'He Said She Said' doesn't work when there is tangible evidence.
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    You can stop trying to make half hearted attempts at insulting me with names and other assumptions and give some context, but something tells me you won’t.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkenaeuxBelmont View Post
    Then can you please explain the two tweet threads that were posted 2 posts after the OP of this thread?
    Quote Originally Posted by KohanaAbarai View Post
    Those posts are a huge misrepresentation of what we stand for. They are taken entirely out of context as well. Instead of anyone even trying to educate us, what happened was they got pissed off, left and made a whole new story up to shame us for no reason. Again these lies are fabricated. Similar to how the media spews opinions and changes context. Believe what you want we won't budge! The fact is we are being crucified by cancel culture because they refuse to talk things out and educate.. they just want to END things that don't make them happy. All this trouble is unnecessary and a giant waste of everyone's time.. All I ask is for those who don't want to be in this group to go find something else already because all this information still circling is invalid.
    Can you just answer ArkenaeuxBelmont's question instead of waffling on. You're being vague in your answers and this is why people don't believe you.
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    Square Enix have extorted money from Viera and Hrothgar's limitations, but from the outside looking in it seems barely any of that money is invested back into the limited races. How much money have they made from players
    fantasia'ing to and from the limited races? We want more race-exclusive hair.
    We want them improved, and we want it done within a reasonable time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KohanaAbarai View Post
    Those posts are a huge misrepresentation of what we stand for. They are taken entirely out of context as well. Instead of anyone even trying to educate us, what happened was they got pissed off, left and made a whole new story up to shame us for no reason. Again these lies are fabricated. Similar to how the media spews opinions and changes context. Believe what you want we won't budge! The fact is we are being crucified by cancel culture because they refuse to talk things out and educate.. they just want to END things that don't make them happy. All this trouble is unnecessary and a giant waste of everyone's time.. All I ask is for those who don't want to be in this group to go find something else already because all this information still circling is invalid.
    Ngl, the first things Abusers do is make it seem like people are spreading misinformation to discredit the victim, then they have multiple people go out their way to defend the abusers so they look like victims. Then they actively get mad when asked if you can show proof that the abusers are in fact victims, and to prove they they were being shamed. Most people who have power Trips on top of that also will do whatever it takes to avoid losing said power. Including lie, and spread misinformation to counter the proof.

    So if all of you are innocent. Just post the pics showing full context, the DMs are there for ever, and it can show that you guys are innocent and the person who posted the other screens are lying. Or you can not show us and deal witht he fact that people will tell others for their own protection to stay away so minors arent groomed and innocent girls aren't abused. Females are abused at an alarming rate in the XIV community. Can you really blame people for wanting to keep their friends, GFs, sisters,etc safe from this kinda thing? ANd you said you manage the server. YOU have direct access to proof that you're all innocent, why not post it then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KohanaAbarai View Post
    Those posts are a huge misrepresentation of what we stand for. They are taken entirely out of context as well. Instead of anyone even trying to educate us, what happened was they got pissed off, left and made a whole new story up to shame us for no reason. Again these lies are fabricated. Similar to how the media spews opinions and changes context. Believe what you want we won't budge! The fact is we are being crucified by cancel culture because they refuse to talk things out and educate.. they just want to END things that don't make them happy. All this trouble is unnecessary and a giant waste of everyone's time.. All I ask is for those who don't want to be in this group to go find something else already because all this information still circling is invalid.
    Like I'm a girl, can you 100% assure me that I'd be safe joining this server? I've been abused, can you make me believe that I can trust the people in this server to not hurt me and harm me and use me like I'm some toy? I'm asking an honest question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    Like I'm a girl, can you 100% assure me that I'd be safe joining this server? I've been abused, can you make me believe that I can trust the people in this server to not hurt me and harm me and use me like I'm some toy? I'm asking an honest question.
    I'm pretty sure the answer is "no", just like in any other place on the internet or even in real life.
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