FFXIV Girls only discord server

[Skivvy]

Let me share the way I perceived the story, which greatly differs from yours.

A girls only discord was advertised as a "safe space" free of "harrassment". This naturally means that males are bad and problematic, and females are all good (-laughs at personal experiences-). The mere concept is an insult to males.

The thread about the bros server was a joke, a parody (and a funny one, I must add). Did you want some serious discussion there?

It's quite simple to see why people might have been annoyed, really.

As a female, I don't think there is an issue with the concept of having a separate Discord group for females only, even with the wording of it being a "safe space, free of harassment". I don't think this automatically means that they think males are bad or problematic and females are all good.

However, sometimes it is a welcome break to know you'll be in a group where you (most likely) don't have to worry about being hit on, sexualized, or garnished with unwanted attention...in whatever form that may take for you. Or maybe you just want to have a spot where you feel more able to discuss certain topics that men in general, for better or worse, do not handle well. It's not a crazy concept, and that doesn't make it sexist as some other people have been declaring.

As far as my own experience goes, I can't tell you how many times I've jumped on VC with a new group, only to start getting hit on by some of the guys. I've also had plenty that just creep over my in-game character as well. A couple of times in the past it's been so overwhelming to me that I ended up changing to a male character for awhile, and that at least stopped the in-game comments almost immediately. With that said, I've thankfully met far, faaaaar more people that are just fun and decent, but the other interactions can really stick with you and I really can't fault anyone for wanting to find a group of like-minded people who may help to curb all of that....stuff.

Now with that said, do I think it's possible to make a group that is completely perfect and free of trouble? No, not at all, but it's obviously worth trying for some people. And hopefully they have rules and people in charge who try their best to manage issues as they arise.

[strawberrycake]

Isn;t this the same discord that was grooming other girls and being bigots?

[KohanaAbarai]

There isn't a streaming situation. Our ladies are vetted, we aren't partnered with anyone. This is all fabrication. There's so much information in these 34 pages, all slander, brought on by people who purposely want to destroy this community. It's an optional community. No one is forcing anyone to join but the slander you are hearing is made from those who could not get their way in the server. I'm just sorry you have he read all of it.

All the women who volunteer to stream for the FFXIV Girls online channel is 100% volunteer and no one HAS to do it. It's meant for those who want to support not to take advantage. If someone disagrees with it they just don't stream under our handle. How is that wrong?

[Blossoming]

There isn't a streaming situation. Our ladies are vetted, we aren't partnered with anyone. This is all fabrication. There's so much information in these 34 pages, all slander, brought on by people who purposely want to destroy this community. It's an optional community. No one is forcing anyone to join but the slander you are hearing is made from those who could not get their way in the server. I'm just sorry you have he read all of it.

All the women who volunteer to stream for the FFXIV Girls online channel is 100% volunteer and no one HAS to do it. It's meant for those who want to support not to take advantage. If someone disagrees with it they just don't stream under our handle. How is that wrong?

Except there’s a ton of screenshots of DMs all over the place, are you serious? So all these people are collectively all lying? You’re not going to gaslight me so don’t even try

[strawberrycake]

There isn't a streaming situation. Our ladies are vetted, we aren't partnered with anyone. This is all fabrication. There's so much information in these 34 pages, all slander, brought on by people who purposely want to destroy this community. It's an optional community. No one is forcing anyone to join but the slander you are hearing is made from those who could not get their way in the server. I'm just sorry you have he read all of it.

All the women who volunteer to stream for the FFXIV Girls online channel is 100% volunteer and no one HAS to do it. It's meant for those who want to support not to take advantage. If someone disagrees with it they just don't stream under our handle. How is that wrong?

Bruh your screens are all over twitter. Ya'll really like gaslight people huh?

[KohanaAbarai]

Nope, all fabrications brought on by upset users that couldn't have their way so they are spreading lies to destroy and optional community. No one is forcing anyone. Seems like an awful lot of an effort on something so trivial as a gaming community for women. MAYBE just maybe people could spend this amount of effort on something more important like RAINN or world hunger. If spending time on a thread slandering a community is your day job, then by all means continue but by no means does this mean we are giving up because some few have created lies and continually attack the owner of the discord.

-Namaste
#cancelcancelculture

[ArkenaeuxBelmont]

There isn't a streaming situation. Our ladies are vetted, we aren't partnered with anyone. This is all fabrication. There's so much information in these 34 pages, all slander, brought on by people who purposely want to destroy this community. It's an optional community. No one is forcing anyone to join but the slander you are hearing is made from those who could not get their way in the server. I'm just sorry you have he read all of it.

All the women who volunteer to stream for the FFXIV Girls online channel is 100% volunteer and no one HAS to do it. It's meant for those who want to support not to take advantage. If someone disagrees with it they just don't stream under our handle. How is that wrong?

Then can you please explain the two tweet threads that were posted 2 posts after the OP of this thread?

Because those two situations are the problematic things that stood out to a good number of people. As such, we've only seen one side of both of those situations, but the examples given have detailed screenshots, conversations and examples showing what occurred, and paints a very unflattering appearance of this discord server.

[strawberrycake]

This gives GasLight GateKeep and GirlBoss a whole new meaning xD

[KohanaAbarai]

Except there’s a ton of screenshots of DMs all over the place, are you serious? So all these people are collectively all lying? You’re not going to gaslight me so don’t even try

just because you know what the word "gas lighting" means, doesn't mean you can judge me. I have been auditing the server since I joined. I know exactly whats going on there so if your screen shots mean nothing because they are from a community that is not what we represent and they are being used to miscontrude what our message is into a mesage of hatred. So please spare me your big words. Get on with your mediocre angry hateful life please.

[ArkenaeuxBelmont]

just because you know what the word "gas lighting" means, doesn't mean you can judge me. I have been auditing the server since I joined. I know exactly whats going on there so if your screen shots mean nothing because they are from a community that is not what we represent and they are being used to miscontrude what our message is into a mesage of hatred. So please spare me your big words. Get on with your mediocre angry hateful life please.

So your stance is that the two threads, the two people bringing examples against that server, is that they are lying or referring to a different server?

One contains the gender issue as well as an example of a minor being harassed by another member of that discord.

The other contains a very unflattering exchange between a member who was interested in being a streamer for that community and a person of authority for the discord, in which very clearly the streamers who volunteered seem to be being taken advantage of monetarily, unless I am misunderstanding that situation.

People are only asking for clarification on the two examples that were shown. No one that is sane is claiming a 'Girls Only' 14 discord in of itself is wrong. What people are rightly questioning are the two examples given via the tweets with clear screenshots as to what has occured.