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  1. #121
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    FedoraTheExplorer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    Discrimination & Systemic Discrimination are not the same thing.

    You're talking about systemic discrimination, I'm talking about discrimination.

    Don't conflate the two.

    Rules discriminate against those who do not follow them.
    So basically you don't understand the definition of discrimination then.
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  2. #122
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    Quote Originally Posted by FedoraTheExplorer View Post
    So basically you don't understand the definition of discrimination then.
    Co-opting and rebranding a word does not change the definition of it.
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    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
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    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

  3. #123
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    Nekaru Infitima
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    Quote Originally Posted by AziraSyuren View Post
    no
    it is not
    lmao
    It was up until the recent years.
    Just because Tumblr science got picked up by panderers.
    Doesn't make it true.

    It's still very heavily subjective.
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    Name Meaning:
    Nekaru = Neko + Hikaru
    Infitima = Infinity + Ultima

  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by AziraSyuren View Post
    no
    it is not
    lmao
    Yes it is lmao
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  5. #125
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    As an aside, a not insignificant amount of people simply want to be left alone to do their own thing. I don't think everybody necessarily needs to be invited to join absolutely everything in existence - because such an approach prevents quite a lot of people from getting support that is custom tailored to what they desire.

    If a group of women on the internet want to hide away in their own little Discord server then I think that's perfectly acceptable. I see advertisements for women only groups quite often - for coffee mornings and the like.

    I know women who have been horribly abused and as part of their recovery, they needed to retreat into their own little support bubbles until they built up the confidence to interact with the wider world once more.

    It's an approach that isn't going to work for everybody, though it works for some people and the last thing survivors of abuse need is to be burdened with problems that simply do not concern them.
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by FedoraTheExplorer View Post
    Buddy discrimination is discrimination whether its on the Internet or not.

    I think you need to clear your head because all you give me is word salad. Go outside, get some fresh air and touch some grass.
    You keep saying word salad, like you can't follow basic sentences. Discrimination in what amounts to a hobbyist space is not equal to discrimination elsewhere.

    Also, it's winter and all the grass is dead.
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    Co-opting and rebranding a word does not change the definition of it.
    There's a difference between common and academic parlance; most of the conversations of systemic discrimination, racism, etc fall into the latter. It's frankly pointless to talk about these issues with people who won't engage with them on that level, and you probably shouldn't bother for your own sake.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nekaru_Infitima View Post
    It was up until the recent years.
    Just because Tumblr science got picked up by panderers.
    Doesn't make it true.

    It's still very heavily subjective.
    ok Dr. Dunning-Kruger, whatever you say
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    As an aside, a not insignificant amount of people simply want to be left alone to do their own thing. I don't think everybody necessarily needs to be invited to join absolutely everything in existence - because such an approach prevents quite a lot of people from getting support that is custom tailored to what they desire.

    If a group of women on the internet want to hide away in their own little Discord server then I think that's perfectly acceptable. I see advertisements for women only groups quite often - for coffee mornings and the like.

    I know women who have been horribly abused and as part of their recovery, they needed to retreat into their own little support bubbles until they built up the confidence to interact with the wider world once more.

    It's an approach that isn't going to work for everybody, though it works for some people and the last thing survivors of abuse need is to be burdened with problems that simply do not concern them.
    If that would've been so easy for people to understand we wouldn't have this long of a thread. Many people said that here before but some people just can't let it go without their unwanted counsel and opinion policising
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  9. #129
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    Yeah hard pass.

    The gender problems are a big ball of issues in of themselves, but trying to put their hands in other people’s profits is nonesense.

    OP if you truly believe in this cause, it should be entirely voluntary on all parties. If streamers are making money it’s none of your business unless you provide services the steamer actively wants to pay you for. Shame on you for taking by advantage of others.
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    Last edited by kaynide; 12-20-2021 at 05:06 PM.

  10. #130
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    As a girl, this somehow feels so strange to me.
    Perhaps its because I had bad experiences with both guys and girls on the internet. Probably cause I played other more pvp based games on semi competitive level. I also had workplaces where girls pretend to be your friends then backstab you. (I worked at a Big Four and boi oh boi...)

    Again, not saying only girls, boys had their own ways. And not all of them. There are always kind people, but they don't make it in these kind of environments. They just fall out and go do something else that is more safe for their mental health.

    However, if there is a group of girls who want to do this, then why not?
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