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    Quote Originally Posted by Swimcito View Post
    First of all, wow is not broken. It is still by far the most mechanically complete MMO out there...

    The problem is not WOW, it's Blizzard.... and their content output ...

    NO matter how good an MMO can be if you are not updating it, people will get tired out of it and quit.

    Wow's problem is lack of Blizzard's dev output. Basically the game has had only 1 big update in a year, and 8 months after release. Couple that with mechanics that do not reward playability and burnout, the only way to remain subbed is if somehow Blizzard kept updating the game with much bigger updates, say every 4 months...
    I play games for story not gear grind or chAllenge we have challenges here called ultimate , played wow because I liked Warcraft 3 stories and I enjoyed it up WOTC and what broke it for me was I had to do join guild do 24 man raid or whatever number it was to see the Arthur./Arthas in flesh couldn’t see any him anyway because every Guild has its meta back then and if I remember correctly my boomkin wasn’t the META and I just plain refused to change class just to follow the story,Then I come here and follow the story at my own pace I don’t need to join no guild , don’t waste my time in GEAR Challenge my class doesn’t matter, I play what I think is fun, I have affinity to PLD and WHM as I like to help people ,Here I can do normal trials and follow the story.

    I do extreme on weekends and many time we don’t clear it is about the journey for me.

    I consider wow an unrecoverable shit because they messed the story so much after WOTC , it doesn’t make sense anymore the story is unrecoverable mess. You want to know my train of though here is the video Pyro realized it 6-7 years after I saw it coming

    https://youtu.be/ZXwGJNI7L1w
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    Last edited by jadeblade; 12-20-2021 at 01:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadeblade View Post
    I play games for story not gear grind or chAllenge we have challenges here called ultimate , played wow because I liked Warcraft 3 stories and I enjoyed it up WOTC and what broke it for me was I had to do join guild do 24 man raid or whatever number it was to see the Arthur in flesh couldn’t see any him anyway because every Guild has its meta back then and if I remember correctly my boomkin wasn’t the META and I just plain refused to change class just to follow the story,Then I come here and follow the story at my own pace I don’t need to join no guild , don’t waste my time in GEAR Challenge my class doesn’t matter, I play what I think is fun, I have affinity to PLD and WHM as I like to help people ,Here I can do normal trials and follow the story.

    I do extreme on weekends and many time we don’t clear it is about the journey for me.

    I consider wow an unrecoverable shit because they messed the story so much after WOTC , it doesn’t make sense anymore the story is unrecoverable mess. You want to know my train of though here is the video Pyro realized it 6-7 years after I saw it coming

    https://youtu.be/ZXwGJNI7L1w
    Story was fine, Legion was fine, the problem is all that cosmic crap ever since Sylvannas...

    Tbh storywise the best thing that can happen to wow is Sylvannas diying.

    But thats besides the point we arent here comparing story. I could say the same about EW, ok the story was nice, but now that its done, where do you go from now ?

    Besides, story can take you only to a certain point.. Its not like they can produce more story that we can consume...

    Endgame content needs replayability and gear wheel needs to matter.

    In 14, we get gear, gear that basically is useless outside..

    Hell, you cant even "duel" to show your good progress with your friends...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swimcito View Post
    Story was fine, Legion was fine, the problem is all that cosmic crap ever since Sylvannas...

    Tbh storywise the best thing that can happen to wow is Sylvannas diying.

    But thats besides the point we arent here comparing story. I could say the same about EW, ok the story was nice, but now that its done, where do you go from now ?

    Besides, story can take you only to a certain point.. Its not like they can produce more story that we can consume...

    Endgame content needs replayability and gear wheel needs to matter.

    In 14, we get gear, gear that basically is useless outside..

    Hell, you cant even "duel" to show your good progress with your friends...
    There is alway gear grind in wow , feel free to go back if story isn’t that important, story is shit whatever what they do it won’t matter. Screw your gear grind , mythic raids and PVP, lol I just remembered the word Epeen, I am done here getting PTSD talking to you lots. Go get your epeen on wow.

    YOU CONSIDER THIS STORY FINE?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...the_jailer_is/

    You have low standards.
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    Last edited by jadeblade; 12-20-2021 at 02:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadeblade View Post
    There is alway gear grind in wow , feel free to go back if story isn’t that important story is shit whatever what they do it won’t matter. Screw your gear grind , mythic raids and PVP
    You... realize that if not for WoW releasing the equivalent of 10-12 Ultimates per raid tier and thus initial tier clears taking longer, there'd be no less gear-grind in XIV if one wants BiS -- more, even, in any given relic tier due to the side-content grinds required?

    XIV gear just has fewer places to be of use because there are fewer forms of content; it's as simple as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jadeblade View Post
    There is alway gear grind in wow , feel free to go back if story isn’t that important story is shit whatever what they do it won’t matter. Screw your gear grind , mythic raids and PVP, lol I just remembered the word Epeen, I am done here getting PTSD talking to you lots. Go get your epeen on wow.

    YOU CONSIDER THIS STORY FINE?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...the_jailer_is/

    You have low standards.
    No, Shadowlands story sucks, there is a reason i began playing FF14 (I began before the Asmongold craze), and i liked FF14 story, but i already finished it, now what ?, it need gear and replayable endgame content.

    You are making it sound just as 14 has some aspects i dont like or needs improving, it is unplayable (for me), the same you do with Wow...

    Wow current story sucks, but it doesnt mean the game has some nice aspects. Dare i say even better than ff14, lets begin with one that its pretty much 100% agreeable without contemption.

    The transmog system is 100% better than the glamour system. No deny here, agree ?

    Ok, but what about more contemption ones, like pvp ?. Does it really not merit at least discussion ?, its erronous to think that you are in your bubble and somehow 14 cant improve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swimcito View Post
    No, Shadowlands story sucks, there is a reason i began playing FF14 (I began before the Asmongold craze), and i liked FF14 story, but i already finished it, now what ?, it need gear and replayable endgame content.

    You are making it sound just as 14 has some aspects i dont like or needs improving, it is unplayable (for me), the same you do with Wow...

    Wow current story sucks, but it doesnt mean the game has some nice aspects. Dare i say even better than ff14, lets begin with one that its pretty much 100% agreeable without contemption.

    The transmog system is 100% better than the glamour system. No deny here, agree ?

    Ok, but what about more contemption ones, like pvp ?. Does it really not merit
    at least discussion ?, its erronous to think that you are in your bubble and somehow 14 cant improve.
    Transmog is the only thing I agree with.

    Have your tired old contents, like coil , it isn’t always gear you know , mechanics are fun.
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