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  1. #371
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    Barring the random posts from a dev at weird hours of the morning, I can't say that anyone really works on weekends. As much as the devs care about you, Michu, they want their weekends just like you do. You can't even call SE over a weekend to explain that your character was hacked and is selling all of your items; why do you expect them to call in the operations team to let you hop worlds over the weekend, when you can wait 'til Monday for the exact same effect?

    While this is competitive, no one else is getting your spot because they are all locked out just like you are.

    The goal of this merge is to create worlds that have adequate populations to thrive, while keeping the largest number of customers happy. It is impossible to please everyone. Option 4 received almost unprecedented amounts of passionate feedback, and I saw more "Posts: 1" people on the forums than I think I ever have. It caused outrage across all language forums, as well.

    With Option 2, there is one rage thread, and I'm sorry that the minority of players that are trying to hop servers cannot do so, but from a decision-making standpoint it seems like they have pleased far more people with Option 2 than they ever could have with Option 4.

    Please also remember that the transfer application is not and was never intended as a courtesy to players who lacked friends on their home world or for whatever reason weren't happy there; rather, it was included for the EU players, which the devs hoped would move en masse to Ragnarok.
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  2. #372
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michu_Saroo View Post
    The ability to select a new server is not an inconvenience, it's an impossibility. There is only one server open to move to so the "option" that everyone voted for is just a false choice. If it happened the way people expected (as in they could actually choose a server) then no one here would be complaining. That's why it doesn't make sense for you to continue to argue that anyone got what they wanted because they didn't.
    that's funny you saying that nobody got what they wanted. everyone that i know on my server is going where they want. i do not know of anyone that has wanted to move that has not already made their choice. i am not saying that everyone has been that lucky, but what i am saying is that the thousands of people that wanted to merge and stay with their community have gotten exactly what they asked for. we were merged and we stay together. i agree that the optional transfers could have been handled better, but as far as the merge itself it did exactly what was asked to be done.
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  3. #373
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mychael View Post
    Barring the random posts from a dev at weird hours of the morning, I can't say that anyone really works on weekends. As much as the devs care about you, Michu, they want their weekends just like you do. You can't even call SE over a weekend to explain that your character was hacked and is selling all of your items; why do you expect them to call in the operations team to let you hop worlds over the weekend, when you can wait 'til Monday for the exact same effect?

    While this is competitive, no one else is getting your spot because they are all locked out just like you are.

    The goal of this merge is to create worlds that have adequate populations to thrive, while keeping the largest number of customers happy. It is impossible to please everyone. Option 4 received almost unprecedented amounts of passionate feedback, and I saw more "Posts: 1" people on the forums than I think I ever have. It caused outrage across all language forums, as well.

    With Option 2, there is one rage thread, and I'm sorry that the minority of players that are trying to hop servers cannot do so, but from a decision-making standpoint it seems like they have pleased far more people with Option 2 than they ever could have with Option 4.

    Please also remember that the transfer application is not and was never intended as a courtesy to players who lacked friends on their home world or for whatever reason weren't happy there; rather, it was included for the EU players, which the devs hoped would move en masse to Ragnarok.
    First of all stop pretending that you know what the developers want or intended with the server merge. If they wanted EU players to move to Ragnarok then they should have just offered that; and don't give me this community uprising business because if they actually cared what the community said then they would have made the transfer process effective. Instead they said "we hear you and we're going to do what you want!" and then made it impossible to transfer servers except to get to Ragnarok. Maybe a handful of people got on the servers they wanted but I didn't and I have several friends that also have not. The point is if they are going to offer a choice then they should honor the choice. It's terrible customer service and par for the course with SE. They don't have a choice any more with the perception of their image - this game was a failure at launch and if they don't get their crap together it will be a failure again at v2.0.
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  4. #374
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    that's funny you saying that nobody got what they wanted. everyone that i know on my server is going where they want. i do not know of anyone that has wanted to move that has not already made their choice. i am not saying that everyone has been that lucky, but what i am saying is that the thousands of people that wanted to merge and stay with their community have gotten exactly what they asked for. we were merged and we stay together. i agree that the optional transfers could have been handled better, but as far as the merge itself it did exactly what was asked to be done.
    Oh well silly me, I must not know what I'm talking about because thousands of your friends have told you otherwise. Obviously me and all the others in this thread and the numerous other threads about this topic that are complaining are just doing it for the lulz, amirite?
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  5. #375
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michu_Saroo View Post
    First of all stop pretending that you know what the developers want or intended with the server merge. If they wanted EU players to move to Ragnarok then they should have just offered that; and don't give me this community uprising business because if they actually cared what the community said then they would have made the transfer process effective. Instead they said "we hear you and we're going to do what you want!" and then made it impossible to transfer servers except to get to Ragnarok. Maybe a handful of people got on the servers they wanted but I didn't and I have several friends that also have not. The point is if they are going to offer a choice then they should honor the choice. It's terrible customer service and par for the course with SE. They don't have a choice any more with the perception of their image - this game was a failure at launch and if they don't get their crap together it will be a failure again at v2.0.
    Actually, I'm not "pretending that [I] know" anything. I merely leveled up in life enough to posses a skill called "Read."


    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    [....]In keeping with the concept behind the World Merge, the primary goal is to maintain a balance of active players (i.e. characters) on the servers.[....]
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    [....]Just as it was explained in the concept, the main purpose of this merge is to encourage current active players to play with the users in the same time zones.[....]
    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
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    Especially with this merge, we felt very strongly to make it so everyone from the EU region can play together in the same time zone.

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    Furthermore, no matter what option we decide to go with, we knew we weren’t able to satisfy every customer.
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    I could probably pull a relevant quote from literally every dev post on the merge, but I'm stopping here. Better things to do.
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  6. #376
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michu_Saroo View Post
    Oh well silly me, I must not know what I'm talking about because thousands of your friends have told you otherwise. Obviously me and all the others in this thread and the numerous other threads about this topic that are complaining are just doing it for the lulz, amirite?
    Michu, your arguing with a bunch of people that got exactly what they wanted from this merge and didnt have to try to transfer anywhere. That being said, they are never going to see your point of view because theirs comes from a place of contentment. This merge made most of the people that were already on a server that was fairly populated happy while still screwing the rest of us that come from ghosttown servers and want to move. Your wasting your breath.

    This option was perfect in that it made the people that were already fairly content with the game before hand happy, while still doing absolutly nothing for those of us that weren't. Day 4 of all the servers being closed still, stellar job SE!
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  7. #377
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggs View Post
    This merge made most of the people that were already on a server that was fairly populated happy while still screwing the rest of us that come from ghosttown servers and want to move. Your wasting your breath.

    This option was perfect in that it made the people that were already fairly content with the game before hand happy, while still doing absolutly nothing for those of us that weren't. Day 4 of all the servers being closed still, stellar job SE!
    Being on a ghost town server is not a reason to move. That's what the "merge" is doing. None of the new servers will be ghost towns. If your goal is to move away from a ghost town, you should stick with your current server. That way, someone who really does need to move can. "Transfers" are for people that want to play with their friends that are already on another server, or so that people can move to a place with a higher concentration of people in their time zone.
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  8. #378
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggs View Post
    Michu, your arguing with a bunch of people that got exactly what they wanted from this merge and didnt have to try to transfer anywhere. That being said, they are never going to see your point of view because theirs comes from a place of contentment. This merge made most of the people that were already on a server that was fairly populated happy while still screwing the rest of us that come from ghosttown servers and want to move. Your wasting your breath.

    This option was perfect in that it made the people that were already fairly content with the game before hand happy, while still doing absolutly nothing for those of us that weren't. Day 4 of all the servers being closed still, stellar job SE!
    You're absolutely right. It's just sad to me that people are content with mediocrity. I can understand not really haven't a stake in the matter but to actively defend it is just inviting more of the same old same old from SE. They haven't learned from their mistakes and the paying customers should hold them accountable rather than trying to blame the players.
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  9. #379
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggs View Post
    Michu, your arguing with a bunch of people that got exactly what they wanted from this merge and didnt have to try to transfer anywhere. That being said, they are never going to see your point of view because theirs comes from a place of contentment. This merge made most of the people that were already on a server that was fairly populated happy while still screwing the rest of us that come from ghosttown servers and want to move. Your wasting your breath.

    This option was perfect in that it made the people that were already fairly content with the game before hand happy, while still doing absolutly nothing for those of us that weren't. Day 4 of all the servers being closed still, stellar job SE!
    please, oh please, show me any numbers that has karnak as anything besides one of the lowest populated servers. i am on a ghosttown server myself. i wanted a merge to be around a higher amount of players. i am being default moved to join up with 2 other servers that are also lowly populated.

    now next point. you want to go back and see where i have been content with this game at all? show me where i took up for this game besides how the merge has been done. i have been very critical of most of the moves the dev team has made.

    like i stated, yes, the optional transfers could have been handled better because it is an inconvenience to the small percentage of players that are trying to move. i am not going to attack the merge method though because it is doing exactly what the members of my very lowly populated server asked for. we are being merged with other servers so they will no longer be ghost towns.

    maybe they should just get rid of the optional free transfers all together. they can do server a and merge it with server b and nobody goes anywhere. after the merge goes live then open up paid transfers and charge 20 for people to change servers per character.
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    I see △'s next to every server's availability as of right now... Aside from Ragnarok which has it's constant ○ since Day 1.. Go NOW!
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