
It's weird how much you want to make every error the player's fault.


Well with the 90k errors, it would have to happen to everyone at the same time for it to be an issue with the server wouldn't it? If it is only a small minority, it is more likely to be something with their ISP, especially if they are in the US because US ISP's are trash. That being said, you do have a point in not ruling out a problem on SE end; you just can't rule out something on the ISP side either.
??? If I never had a 90k in years of playing before Endwalker launch, and since then have had a ton... doesn't it stand to reason that the issue is due to the server overload?Well with the 90k errors, it would have to happen to everyone at the same time for it to be an issue with the server wouldn't it? If it is only a small minority, it is more likely to be something with their ISP, especially if they are in the US because US ISP's are trash. That being said, you do have a point in not ruling out a problem on SE end; you just can't rule out something on the ISP side either.


No, actually.
If everyone gets a 90k at the same time, it definitely means the issue is on the server side. (This actually happened to Primal only a few days ago -- the bulk of the instance servers crashed all at once, so everyone in a duty at the time across the datacenter got 90k'd simultaneously. And then we were stuck in limbo for two hours.)
But 90k's happening that aren't simultaneous and universal doesn't rule out the possibility of it being a server-side issue. To use mathematical logic statements, "If A then B" doesn't necessarily imply "If not A then not B". Or, to put it another way "absence of proof is not proof of absence."
I personally suspect the 90k issue is caused by a variety of things, and some may be player-side and some may be server-side, so anyone trying to track down a single cause for 90k's is going to be frustrated and disappointed.
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No, but it's also weird how everyone doesn't understand how the internet works and blames the servers for literally everything.
WiFi is terrible for gaming. It causes tons off issues, and every friend I've had who dc'd on wifi stopped as soon as they moved to a wired/powerline adapter for wired connection.
It's a proven fact.
Plus, US internet infrastructure is terrible, and "my internet is fine" is not how the internet works.

Except that they weren't using the Wifi so you were wrong about it being the problem.No, but it's also weird how everyone doesn't understand how the internet works and blames the servers for literally everything.
WiFi is terrible for gaming. It causes tons off issues, and every friend I've had who dc'd on wifi stopped as soon as they moved to a wired/powerline adapter for wired connection.
It's a proven fact.
Plus, US internet infrastructure is terrible, and "my internet is fine" is not how the internet works.
Because it can be. I have a wired 1gb connection and my connection is "Excellent" per the what the client says. Never experienced any d/c. It's just funny how you think a persons internet connection has no affect on the connection.

Where did I say that? They blamed the person's problems on wifi which the person went on to say they aren't using.
I've had no issues outside of PotD, and honestly I fixed that by running my coax cable from my modem directly into the wall instead of through the surge protector I have. May regret it down the line, but I read that it can cause network interference and I'm tired of being dropped, especially during dungeon runs.
Maybe just try to eliminate everything that could interfere with your connection?
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