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    Player Rinhi's Avatar
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    Rinh Neftereh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xrystofer View Post
    The problem is that parsing promotes toxicity and the current rules keep that toxicity in check.
    DPS/parsing was mentioned exactly twice, 2 (two) times, in the 2286 dungeons/trials I've done - and only one of the two was """toxic""", yet I'm very sure that at least half of those times, someone was running a parser

    Quote Originally Posted by Xrystofer View Post
    Also, I don't think that ruining someone's experience with toxic behavior is a non-issue. Most content in this game doesn't require optimal DPS. If you want to parse with your friends, kudos to you. Just don't bring it up in party finder.
    no one's ruining anyone's experience with making a PF for parse runs, it hurts precisely nobody and all you're doing is trying to moral grandstand an issue that literally doesn't exist for whatever reason

    all you're doing is trying to make a you issue (for whatever reason you might have), into everybody's issue because ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Xrystofer View Post
    Do you believe that toxicity and passive-aggressive remarks are acceptable because you accepted to join a parse group?

    I don't want to deal with that, and I don't think that the majority of people enjoy having toxic behavior directed at them. At least with static groups you can leave the FC and avoid them.
    first of all, if someone has an issue with parsing, why would they join a parsing PF?
    second, someone that joins a parsing PF knows that they're looking for maximum damage and uptime, which brings me to my third point;
    anybody who joins that pf knows that they'll get criticized if they make a mistake or their dps is too low for their job, considering they knew what they joined into, though I assume people will just silently kick those people instead of trying to give advice at this point
    if you don't want to deal with it, don't deal with it? don't join those pfs? they're not forcing you or anyone else to join, yet that seems to be your whole point for whatever reason

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    It's against the TOS and shouldn't be there. Pretty simple really. At some point these people will be reported and banned. They can continue to risk their accounts but I would suggest they wake up before that happens.
    it's stupid, sure, but how does that invalidate my point? the existence of those pf's hurt no one but possibly themselves due to reports, but no one forces anyone to join them and neither do they promote toxicity

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoosa View Post
    Yup and this is stupid, because it helps no one. I can’t learn anything if I’m just kicked for no reason, and I’m left wondering why.
    that's what the million learning parties are there for

    last post on the matter because of daily post limit lmao
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    Last edited by Rinhi; 12-15-2021 at 09:45 PM.

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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    no one's ruining anyone's experience with making a PF for parse runs,
    It's against the TOS and shouldn't be there. Pretty simple really. At some point these people will be reported and banned. They can continue to risk their accounts but I would suggest they wake up before that happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    DPS/parsing was mentioned exactly twice, 2 (two) times, in the 2286 dungeons/trials I've done - and only one of the two was """toxic""", yet I'm very sure that at least half of those times, someone was running a parser
    Your results are biased, there's no control group. People are less inclined to be toxic because they can't openly talk about parsing.

    People usually don't have an inherent problem with parsing, people have a problem with HOW parsing is used.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    first of all, if someone has an issue with parsing, why would they join a parsing PF?
    second, someone that joins a parsing PF knows that they're looking for maximum damage and uptime, which brings me to my third point;
    anybody who joins that pf knows that they'll get criticized if they make a mistake or their dps is too low for their job, considering they knew what they joined into, though I assume people will just silently kick those people instead of trying to give advice at this point
    Personally, I don't have an issue with parsing per se, I have an issue with how it is used. Furthermore, you are making the assumption that only those people, that knowingly join a party unprepared, will get criticised and I doubt that is true.

    Why can't you just keep it to yourself?
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    Last edited by Xrystofer; 12-15-2021 at 11:30 PM.