Ninja Main Angry

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Ninja Main Angry

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[Crimson1345]

True enough but its the nerf to Nin is main concern the class feels so empty to how it was before 6.0.

Assassinate should be useable no matter what and I cannot combo it now since dream within a dream is on its own after 56. Someone said Raiju but its lvl 90 abilites.

So no abilities to help from 56 to 90 strange. SE you need to revert Nin back to how it was before 6.0 without Shadow Fang its not missed as much as Assassinate is. I was really upset they really did this to Nin. Horrible. I love my Nin and played it since well when it released. They really messed Ninja up compared to how it was. That stupid trait needs to change or adjusted.

Dream within a dream goes with Assassinate. I dunno if there trying to push players to Reaper maybe but not the right idea players will always play a new class you know.

Huraijin is a lvl 60 skill useless before that level so Nins still have to use Ninjustu for Houten another point I will make.

[wereotter]

That Hurajin is garbage my range on houten in beginning of a boss fight proves the point Ninjustu for the win over that lazy skill. Your not gonna spend few seconds running to the boss to use it regardless. All Nins I know use there ninjstu right before the tank pulls the boss. I rather see it removed and replaced with something more Useful. Not saying add more charges, one Skill Nin has lets you cast three back to back Ninjutsu easily so there is no point for the lazy skill.

Espically with Armor crush being ingame Hurajin is not needed.

You've completely missed the point here. The purpose of the skill is not to apply huton to start with, you should apply it with ninjutsu then hide to recover the charge if you're not in combat. And the purpose is not to refresh the timer, as I showed, it's a much weaker DPS skill than armor crush.

The entire point of this skill is to make it so that if you die in the middle of a fight, you don't have to forfeit a raiton in order to reapply your buff, and you don't have to wait the up to 20 seconds without that buff to get it back on. It's also for situations like Puppet's Bunker or E12 where there's a cutscene in the middle of the boss fight so you can reapply without wasting a ninjutsu charge. It doesn't replace anything you already had, it's just a situational skill.

[Equitable_Remedy]

You've completely missed the point here. The purpose of the skill is not to apply huton to start with, you should apply it with ninjutsu then hide to recover the charge if you're not in combat. And the purpose is not to refresh the timer, as I showed, it's a much weaker DPS skill than armor crush.

The entire point of this skill is to make it so that if you die in the middle of a fight, you don't have to forfeit a raiton in order to reapply your buff, and you don't have to wait the up to 20 seconds without that buff to get it back on. It's also for situations like Puppet's Bunker or E12 where there's a cutscene in the middle of the boss fight so you can reapply without wasting a ninjutsu charge. It doesn't replace anything you already had, it's just a situational skill.

Preach the good word!

[Duskane]

Huraijin is your insurance skill death,cutscene,slip up,greed where huton drops or early pulls thats all

rip bozo assassinate you wont be missed
skill was only good for Gpose when they tacked it on to DWD in ShB

[xbahax92]

I really miss Assassinate. It feels so off without it now. Wish they wouldnt always streamline every job. I know the goal is to cause less stress while playing, but sometimes satisfying combos can increase gameplay.

[Kolsykol]

Totally get the complaints ( for the most part, do have some disagreements ), especially about the opener and trick attack window it's definitely very different now.
But I actually find myself enjoying NIN a lot.
Not entirely sure if I enjoy Shadowbringer or Endwalker NIN the most but I'd actually probably say that I lean more in the Endwalker direction which I didn't think I'd say.
Raiju feels great to use imo the only real issue I have with it is that you should be able to use weapon skills and not lose the stacks.

I am surprised that I enjoy it tho because my initial impression was that I didn't like the heavier Ninjutsu emphasis.
Spamming one button isn't exactly super interesting that's for sure, but it does feel good and look cool at least imo.

Edit: Also I thought the Artifact gear looked stupid at first when I saw it.
Ingame it looks way better imo I rly like the chest piece and gloves a lot.

[Crimson1345]

The point is Armor crush is there to keep ur timer going. That newer skill is usless. Most boss pulls I say again you use ur ninjustu to get that attack speed up prior to engagaing now for open world its meh. Assassinate was nerfed cause of the Broken trait they added its simple to fix remove the trait or adjust to do something else.

I rather use my one skill that lets me cast three ninjutsu to get my houten back instead of wasting the time for one lousy attack is the point. It doesn't combo into anything and its weak. I will say again bring back the Nin we had from SHB it was more fun. Raiju only helps at endgame or lvl 90.

Were missing so much prior to the that. Before End Walker we had Assassinate and Dream within a Dream. They worked togather. There's no agruing that. With that trait that forces Assassinate to Dream within a dream at lvl 56 is not good for Ninja. Before lvl 56 we have Assassinate but no dream within a Dream so theres the issue we have less skills till lvl 90.

Huraijin is a lvl 60 skill so before that its usless. So Nins won't learn to use it since they already have the muscle memory and so forth with the Ninjustu prior to lvl 60. For the ones who jump to whatever level then its on them. Now of Huraijin had a combo with it then it be more effective in my opinion.

[wereotter]

I rather use my one skill that lets me cast three ninjutsu to get my houten back instead of wasting the time for one lousy attack is the point. It doesn't combo into anything and its weak. I will say again bring back the Nin we had from SHB it was more fun. Raiju only helps at endgame or lvl 90.

Using Ten Chi Jin to refresh your huton not only means you have to wait up to the two minutes for it to come off cooldown to refresh, but you're also losing a suiton/doton. AND still losing potency in the process. Suiton, assuming that's what you're not getting, and the one with the lower total potency, is 500 potency. You're giving that up to get a huton. And you're doing this instead of just using the 200 potency Hurajin instead of your first spinning edge in your rotation... which is also 200 potency.

It's clear you're either now intentionally ignoring the purpose of the attack, or just insisting on playing poorly. Regardless, I'm done trying to convince you the error of just using mudras to apply huton mid-combat.

[Crimson1345]

I never played poorly thats for sure cleared many salavages with my rotation prior to 6.0. These newer skills feel underwhelming is the point of this. I don't need to recast with ninjustu in mid combat I have armor crush lol. The point is Armor crush is here for a reason if you use it well no need for that other skill is the point. The newer skills are underwhelming compared to what Nin had prior to 6.0. Now Raiju is another topic but since its lvl 90 not gonna say much on it.

They left us with less effective skills compared to how we were in SHB. Avoiding mechincs is easier on for Nin compared to some other dps class since we can cast on the move. Don't forget the other ability we have to reset our ninjustu timer once as well we have some tools to use.