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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayden View Post
    I hope we get to meet this Dragon, not just because I love Dragons but I feel like we're not finished with the Story of the First Brood.

    We had a hint with what happened with the Primals in Endwalker...now apply that to Bahamut and I just get EXCITED.
    That would be an insult to Bahamut though and something Tiamat would not be pleased by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    That would be an insult to Bahamut though and something Tiamat would not be pleased by.
    I don't assume she'd be very happy about it at all, no.
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    At first I thought Azdaja would be somewhere in the New World, too, but someone suggested Azdaja could have somehow made it/accidentally transferred to one of the other Shards that we haven't heard about it, which, if eventually in some much later expac (best for a Raid series) would make for a cool plot twist
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeanneOrnitier View Post
    Azdaja could be in Meracydia but I think if she were she would have been mentioned alongside Bahamut and Tiamat. I'd bet on the New World too.
    Neither Bahamut nor Tiamat have been on Meracydia for 6000 years, which is enough time for another to move in, and possibly a leaderless and defeated dragon population who needs the guiding claw of a great wyrm.

    I have a feeling Azdaja is going to be wherever the writers decide to send us regardless. This game’s plot has a tendency to write the lore rather than the other way around anyway.


    Quote Originally Posted by Denishia View Post
    At first I thought Azdaja would be somewhere in the New World, too, but someone suggested Azdaja could have somehow made it/accidentally transferred to one of the other Shards that we haven't heard about it, which, if eventually in some much later expac (best for a Raid series) would make for a cool plot twist
    Where is that suggested? I’ve heard of people say that the large eggs on the First could have been dragon eggs, but I thought it was heavily implied it was the invisible dinosaurs from the DoL role quests.
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    Not the First, we know the creatures there aren't related to the First Brood. I want to say it was reddit, but I don't remember. I agree that Azdaja will show up wherever the plot goes next and could use them, but that I hadn't considered one of the other Shards now feels like an oversight.

    I could well-imagine the raid questline for 7.0 involving dealing with one of the AWOL Sundered Ascians who was prepping a Shard for a Calamity and is now twiddling their thumbs and causing mischief because the endgame of their bosses is no more, and during this raid we gain as our main ally Azdaja, who chased this Ascian into the Rift and into the Shard, accidentally stranding themselves and therefore placing themselves as the Shard's protector as a miniature copy of Midgarsormr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denishia View Post
    I could well-imagine the raid questline for 7.0 involving dealing with one of the AWOL Sundered Ascians who was prepping a Shard for a Calamity and is now twiddling their thumbs and causing mischief because the endgame of their bosses is no more, and during this raid we gain as our main ally Azdaja, who chased this Ascian into the Rift and into the Shard, accidentally stranding themselves and therefore placing themselves as the Shard's protector as a miniature copy of Midgarsormr.
    It’s off on a tangent but I was hoping that EW would at least mention the AWOL Ascians.
    Instead, it seems like they were quietly disposed of off-screen. During the last scene with Hydaelyn, she mentions that she’s now the “last of her kind” which I understood to mean the last Ancient. Though I hope to be proven wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    It’s off on a tangent but I was hoping that EW would at least mention the AWOL Ascians.
    Instead, it seems like they were quietly disposed of off-screen. During the last scene with Hydaelyn, she mentions that she’s now the “last of her kind” which I understood to mean the last Ancient. Though I hope to be proven wrong.
    I have a feeling they purposefully left a loophole there with Sundered/Unsundered just in case they want to softly 'retcon' to have a ready antagonist later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekaru_Infitima View Post
    That's probably it. Given what we now know about their star, their attempts at going to other stars to be destroyed, and finally coming to ours...

    Can you imagine the love Hydaelyn must have gave to Midgardsormr and had for them all? As Venat she knew what was happening acorss the universe from Meteion, she heard the reports of the hopelessness of other stars and so when Midgard came to her, I can just imagine it was instantly with open arms to accept a race of beings who were devoid of hope and had nowhere else to turn because of what was unleashed from her very own home.

    Then the war where they were once again devoid of hope to finally make amends and allow this race that was near extinction to finally have a chance to repopulate. (much like IRL conservation efforts for species).

    I don't know, it makes Midgard knowing Hydaelyn and making a deal with her so much more powerful, in that we now know Venat's personality and history, and the dragons exodus.
    If I’m not mistaken, weren’t the dragons wiped out by the Omicrons and not the Final Days?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    If I’m not mistaken, weren’t the dragons wiped out by the Omicrons and not the Final Days?
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    Considering the fact there are dragons in Ultima Thule, there must’ve been a few remaining wallowing in despair by the time Meteion showed up and she probably just delivered the coup de grace. They would have died off without her anyway since their eggs weren’t able to thrive any longer on their own planet.

    But you don’t wind up in her collection if she didn’t have a hand in your final demise and the echos in Ultima Thule are what the people were like when she met them. The Nekropolis is empty because those people were already dead when she arrived.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
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    Considering the fact there are dragons in Ultima Thule, there must’ve been a few remaining wallowing in despair by the time Meteion showed up and she probably just delivered the coup de grace. They would have died off without her anyway since their eggs weren’t able to thrive any longer on their own planet.

    But you don’t wind up in her collection if she didn’t have a hand in your final demise and the echos in Ultima Thule are what the people were like when she met them. The Nekropolis is empty because those people were already dead when she arrived.
    Not exactly
    I seem to remember that it was mentioned she spoke to spirits and souls as well. Nekropolis, people just *vanished* like that, no trace left, no memory left to track. A whole civilization gone in an instant
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