The waiting times are horrible for any working adult

[Sceros]

I don't think that is is smart as a community to just go over who is right or wrong in terms of solutions.
I mean everyone - like really everyone - needs to realize that this situation is as bad as it can ever get for a large portion of the playerbase. Likely everyone that prefers to just normally log in in the evening to enjoy gaming with friends on a more casual shedule. ALL THOSE PLAYERS ARE LOCKED OUT. COMPLETELY. This is just the reality of the situation. There is no making it good in any way.

Now we too have the situation with Square. Here we have another reality: NO EASY SHORT-TERM FIX.

So what do people do? They think about what can be done or what could have been done. And some of those speculations surely have merit in theory. And they complain - of course. And I do think they do have every right to do so. Even if it does not help the situation. However, I honestly do think it can help. And if you ask me why, I just answer this way: For companies, everything is about calculations. If they deem worth it, they might spend a hella lot on resolving a situation like this.

And for this situation. This, undoubtedly, will go down as the worst launch in MMORPG history. Because it is. In all likelyhood, we will have at least 14 days (we almost are there, it is day 10 now!) where casual evening players had no way to access the game. For some worlds, this is likely to continue right into 2022.

I mean, Imagine the headlines? "One year later. I still could not log into FFXIV servers". Might be missleading because soon this year is past. But just the sound of this. So I say it again. There is no defending this situation. Even if you are one of those players that can sit in queues for hours and are able to play the game, you should not be ignorant of those around you that want nothing more to just join more - but simply can not do so because of our everyday lifes.

[UkcsAlias]

I am just tierd of this 2002 error cycle that will never end ... it's been days now and i get this error multiple times perday ... i am talking over 10 times i have to keep the monitor infront of me the entire time or game over . i don't think any sane person is ok with that ..

During weekends its also significantly worse because people have more time that they normaly can game. For me the game is simply impossible to play unless i would be able to watch my pc for 5 hours straight. Because otherwise i will just get that 2002 while being afk for 5minutes.

During weekdays i can queue early, and avoid a high queue number. And with some small adjustments to timings, i can ensure that i can watch the queue from a certain time avoiding the 2002 kick.

But still, i dont get why everyone in the queue needs an active connection. If your queue number is above 2000 people, you dont have to expect to be playing in the next hour, it could just disconnect for an hour, and try again an hour later, while the queue server just keeps track of your number. Even if kicked by the 2002 error, storing someones position for hours should not give such big overhead on memory either (there is no point getting someones data that far ahead anyway, a single user id should be more than enough).

[Swimcito]

I think that wouldn't be a bad idea actually.



I seem to recall your thread about that going horribly for you.. I recall a loooot of people telling you exactly why that was a very very horrible idea.

Yeah uniformed people talking out of their assess without any knowledge on the matter!

[Swimcito]

The problem is not a queue but 2002. I can wait, it's not comfortable but i can stomach that. But random bullshit 2002 just nullifies all waiting.

Exactly, at least FIX THAT...

Follow up here

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...r-needs-fixing...

[Anya_Synia]

Been queuing for 4 hours today. I got a lobby error at 277. Now back in a queue of over 8k utterly ridiculous.

[ArkenaeuxBelmont]

I don't think that is is smart as a community to just go over who is right or wrong in terms of solutions.
I mean everyone - like really everyone - needs to realize that this situation is as bad as it can ever get for a large portion of the playerbase. Likely everyone that prefers to just normally log in in the evening to enjoy gaming with friends on a more casual shedule. ALL THOSE PLAYERS ARE LOCKED OUT. COMPLETELY. This is just the reality of the situation. There is no making it good in any way.

Now we too have the situation with Square. Here we have another reality: NO EASY SHORT-TERM FIX.

So what do people do? They think about what can be done or what could have been done. And some of those speculations surely have merit in theory. And they complain - of course. And I do think they do have every right to do so. Even if it does not help the situation. However, I honestly do think it can help. And if you ask me why, I just answer this way: For companies, everything is about calculations. If they deem worth it, they might spend a hella lot on resolving a situation like this.

And for this situation. This, undoubtedly, will go down as the worst launch in MMORPG history. Because it is. In all likelyhood, we will have at least 14 days (we almost are there, it is day 10 now!) where casual evening players had no way to access the game. For some worlds, this is likely to continue right into 2022.

I mean, Imagine the headlines? "One year later. I still could not log into FFXIV servers". Might be missleading because soon this year is past. But just the sound of this. So I say it again. There is no defending this situation. Even if you are one of those players that can sit in queues for hours and are able to play the game, you should not be ignorant of those around you that want nothing more to just join more - but simply can not do so because of our everyday lifes.

Worst launch in history? That's... a gross exaggeration. I mean just with 14 alone... 1.0 says hi. 1.0 was MUCH worse. The game itself is fine, it's the log-in servers that are currently messed up. That doesn't by any means make this the worst launch in the history of MMO's.

[Xavier_Firbold]

Worst launch in history? That's... a gross exaggeration. I mean just with 14 alone... 1.0 says hi. 1.0 was MUCH worse. The game itself is fine, it's the log-in servers that are currently messed up. That doesn't by any means make this the worst launch in the history of MMO's.

90002 has nothing to do with the login servers though. It’s the game servers that are struggling to maintain instances and people within them. Leading to the super high queues…

[Xavier_Firbold]

Worst launch in history? That's... a gross exaggeration. I mean just with 14 alone... 1.0 says hi. 1.0 was MUCH worse. The game itself is fine, it's the log-in servers that are currently messed up. That doesn't by any means make this the worst launch in the history of MMO's.

Also 1.0 was at least playable, we’re talking about literally unable to play the game AT ALL. That’s not even a launch imo. That’s a waste of time and money.

[ijuakos_xqwzts]

Do not make lame excuses... They could use the Cloud, even if temporarily !!

Even *if* that is an option, that requires service agreements, backup plans, almost certainly some kind of NDA to protect their IP, and it'd almost certainly require some kind of extended maintenance to move the player data to the new centers. That is IF they are able to find a provider capable of meeting the demands that it takes to run a FFXIV game server. And then, they'd need to have plans to move the data off if it's a "temporary" option.

[Swimcito]

Even *if* that is an option, that requires service agreements, backup plans, almost certainly some kind of NDA to protect their IP, and it'd almost certainly require some kind of extended maintenance to move the player data to the new centers. That is IF they are able to find a provider capable of meeting the demands that it takes to run a FFXIV game server. And then, they'd need to have plans to move the data off if it's a "temporary" option.

They could do it only temporary with the login servers, get only more juice there.

error 2002 needs to go... at least that one