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    OvernightSiren's Avatar
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    Terros Lior
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 97

    Why is SE AGAINST future proofing *and* against making new content the optimal way?

    Honest question. It feels like there's no balance between future proofing old content and making new content alluring.

    Take leveling for example--you'd think that from 80-90 the best way to level, in lieu of a new PotD/HoH would be to do Endwalker dungeons and Endwalker fates. Because it's new content and they want people to do it...but those are far from the most efficient ways to level. Endwalker fates are few and far between and dungeons do not give sufficient exp at all. What's the most effective way to level then? Zadnor. Zadnor zone 3 fates give as much as/more exp than Endwalker fates AND they're more frequent.

    Then when it comes to future proofing, somehow they fail on that too. Wouldn't you think they would *want* people to always have a desire to do old content? Perhaps by even keeping something as simple as *minions* and *mounts* from that content somewhat exclusive? Want the Dodo mount--well then you have to run HoH and help the queues there! Want a specific minion? Well you better go run that one dungeon that no one is queueing for, which also helps THAT queue. Want a Eureka bunny fate mount? better do Eureka and fill that world!

    But what does SE do? Add lootboxes and moogle tomestones event to ensure that NO ONE does that old content, because instead they'll just buy the lootboxes or run Coil T2 a hundred times to get the loot they want.

    It's mind boggling that Square has no interest in future proofing their game to the point that they're making even BRAND NEW content extremely easy to finish. I should not have been able to level an alt from 80 - 90 in less than a day.

    So again--genuine question, does Square not want people to remain subbed? Do they not want to future proof content at all?
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    Clicked's Avatar
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    Edge Vice
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 83
    I, too, wonder what they are thinking with the moogle tomestone events...

    I personally don't bother farming old content because I know if I'm patient enough a lot of it will pop up on the moogle at some point anyway. And now we have the company loot boxes as a seal dump because they don't want to scale down the amount of seals you get gear turn in.

    Perhaps the goal is to encourage people to finish old content once by giving them titles/achievements, but make it so they don't feel like they need to farm that content.

    As for leveling, well, yeah, FATEs and sidequests at this point are just world building. FATEs at least give you gemstones now. Sidequests... they literally just world building and nothing else. But that's okay. I personally don't race to max level. I do the content I enjoy to get to the max level. I wish people would stop making this game into a job where they are forced into doing something they hate for XP. Just do what you enjoy and you'll get to max level.
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by OvernightSiren View Post
    But what does SE do? Add lootboxes and moogle tomestones event to ensure that NO ONE does that old content, because instead they'll just buy the lootboxes or run Coil T2 a hundred times to get the loot they want.
    Im sorry...but what Loot Boxes?
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Im sorry...but what Loot Boxes?
    They added lockboxes you can buy for 20k(I think) GC seals that drop minions and mounts from ARR/Heavensward and Stormblood respectively.
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
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    So..

    You... WANT to be locked into grinding things ad nauseam till you hate the content?

    I enjoy the fact that I can login to the game and get things I want without committing weeks to it.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Khara Relanah
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    Calling it a "loot box" is misleading, because that term is traditionally used to describe REAL MONEY items.
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    Ulorin Ardor
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Do the Eureka mounts and Dodo drop from the gc seal boxes? O_o
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    Laudrian Ravenstorm
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    I do wish 80-90 had easier ways to level, the fate grind is boring and slow as hell, dungeons take a LOOOONG time when leveling a DPS job and are way too slow with the TRUST system. The most effective way right now is simply doing your daily roulettes but that is obviously timegated. I believe I'll just wait for the Bozja like zone of this expansion to level my alt jobs and only then do the special questline.
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    Yunalesca Syl
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    Archer Lv 100
    They are a top Japanese company... Change comes slowly or not at all
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    Sono Faolain
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    Spriggan
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolwosh View Post
    Do the Eureka mounts and Dodo drop from the gc seal boxes? O_o
    They do. Dodo at least, a friend of mine got it from this box.
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    "The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair, and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."
    J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

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