I don't accept your apology

[Lanadra]

I've always wondered why people would willingly defend a product like it's the second coming of Jesus Christ.

'Agree with me or you're a corporate shill' is not exactly the most reasonable take either. Which is pretty much all that a lot people seem capable of coming up with in lieu of real arguments. An almost petty sounding 'why do you keep trying to argue with me you should be as angry as i am'.

I'll say what I've already said plenty often these last 6 days: People are allowed to disagree with you. People are allowed to have a different opinion on something. They don't have to agree with you just because we're all customers in the same boat, especially not when more often than not the people being angry about this are coming off horribly in their posts, with astronomically bad takes and usually a stand-offish attitude from the start.

[Aurikai]

'Agree with me or you're a corporate shill' is not exactly the most reasonable take either. Which is pretty much all that a lot people seem capable of coming up with in lieu of real arguments. An almost petty sounding 'why do you keep trying to argue with me you should be as angry as i am'.

I'll say what I've already said plenty often these last 6 days: People are allowed to disagree with you. People are allowed to have a different opinion on something. They don't have to agree with you just because we're all customers in the same boat, especially not when more often than not the people being angry about this are coming off horribly in their posts, with astronomically bad takes and usually a stand-offish attitude from the start.

So basically people should pay $40 for an expansion and $15/m they can't play? So we're supposed to just give SE free money and get nothing in return? What exactly is your counter argument and/or solution to people's login issues?

[Nothv13]

So basically people should pay $40 for an expansion and $15/m they can't play? So we're supposed to just give SE free money and get nothing in return? What exactly is your counter argument and/or solution to people's login issues?

So don't pay. They've been warning us about issues since the large WoW exodus. The fact that they had to stop selling digital keys should have been a big warning that issues were coming with the launch of Endwalker.

[Viirin]

So basically people should pay $40 for an expansion and $15/m they can't play? So we're supposed to just give SE free money and get nothing in return? What exactly is your counter argument and/or solution to people's login issues?

You can always cancel your sub until things get better. Unless you never intend to play the expansion, doing a refund on the expansion seems pointless. You'll be able to play it eventually.