I don't accept your apology

[Silthos]

When Yoshi P said take a break and play other games did he mean now . Honestly if the errors didnt exist it wouldnt be so bad everyone came into endwalker expecting ques especially anyone who's played mmos in the past. What i dont understand is all the white knighting going on. People can and should be unhappy about the situation and voice that even thou some go to the extreme. I get you love the game but remember it is that. Sometimes gaming companies need that especially these days i feel like gaming companies get away with murder. Ff has some of the best devs so not dissing. I myself cannot play during the weekdays due to work. I neck bearded last weekend to get as much time in as i could. I just bought a few other games to play until this is fixed. It did aggravate me that they recruited b4 lauch. Offering story skips and job boosts while new world and wow was going through their craziness was a bad decision. The new players were definitely felt duty groups have been wild when i could play. Noone should have to adjust their life to play thats just absurd. Any thats my voice on it. Wish everyone well and maybe we'll see each other in Eorzea sometime lol

[Darksummoner]

When Yoshi P said take a break and play other games did he mean now . Honestly if the errors didnt exist it wouldnt be so bad everyone came into endwalker expecting ques especially anyone who's played mmos in the past. What i dont understand is all the white knighting going on. People can and should be unhappy about the situation and voice that even thou some go to the extreme. I get you love the game but remember it is that. Sometimes gaming companies need that especially these days i feel like gaming companies get away with murder. Ff has some of the best devs so not dissing. I myself cannot play during the weekdays due to work. I neck bearded last weekend to get as much time in as i could. I just bought a few other games to play until this is fixed. It did aggravate me that they recruited b4 lauch. Offering story skips and job boosts while new world and wow was going through their craziness was a bad decision. The new players were definitely felt duty groups have been wild when i could play. Noone should have to adjust their life to play thats just absurd. Any thats my voice on it. Wish everyone well and maybe we'll see each other in Eorzea sometime lol

I would suggest you take your replies over to Reddit. The FFXIV community there takes opinions very maturely. No White Knighting over there. The community takes both opinions, good & bad, and responds very very well.

[WingsOfAzrael]

I would suggest you take your replies over to Reddit. The FFXIV community there takes opinions very maturely. No White Knighting over there. The community takes both opinions, good & bad, and responds very very well.

Not always, there's a lot of white knighting that goes on over there too if you're there long enough.

[Shin96]

Not always, there's a lot of white knighting that goes on over there too if you're there long enough.

I've always wondered why people would willingly defend a product like it's the second coming of Jesus Christ.

[Lanadra]

I've always wondered why people would willingly defend a product like it's the second coming of Jesus Christ.

'Agree with me or you're a corporate shill' is not exactly the most reasonable take either. Which is pretty much all that a lot people seem capable of coming up with in lieu of real arguments. An almost petty sounding 'why do you keep trying to argue with me you should be as angry as i am'.

I'll say what I've already said plenty often these last 6 days: People are allowed to disagree with you. People are allowed to have a different opinion on something. They don't have to agree with you just because we're all customers in the same boat, especially not when more often than not the people being angry about this are coming off horribly in their posts, with astronomically bad takes and usually a stand-offish attitude from the start.

[Aurikai]

'Agree with me or you're a corporate shill' is not exactly the most reasonable take either. Which is pretty much all that a lot people seem capable of coming up with in lieu of real arguments. An almost petty sounding 'why do you keep trying to argue with me you should be as angry as i am'.

I'll say what I've already said plenty often these last 6 days: People are allowed to disagree with you. People are allowed to have a different opinion on something. They don't have to agree with you just because we're all customers in the same boat, especially not when more often than not the people being angry about this are coming off horribly in their posts, with astronomically bad takes and usually a stand-offish attitude from the start.

So basically people should pay $40 for an expansion and $15/m they can't play? So we're supposed to just give SE free money and get nothing in return? What exactly is your counter argument and/or solution to people's login issues?

[Nothv13]

So basically people should pay $40 for an expansion and $15/m they can't play? So we're supposed to just give SE free money and get nothing in return? What exactly is your counter argument and/or solution to people's login issues?

So don't pay. They've been warning us about issues since the large WoW exodus. The fact that they had to stop selling digital keys should have been a big warning that issues were coming with the launch of Endwalker.

[Viirin]

So basically people should pay $40 for an expansion and $15/m they can't play? So we're supposed to just give SE free money and get nothing in return? What exactly is your counter argument and/or solution to people's login issues?

You can always cancel your sub until things get better. Unless you never intend to play the expansion, doing a refund on the expansion seems pointless. You'll be able to play it eventually.