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Thread: A NuMonk Rework

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    I like a lot of these ideas. If we're posting our own in the replies, then I had an idea I thought would've been cool for chakra.

    Let the chakra meter get a second tier, have the orbs burn blue or red or something as you fill that tier, ie if you had 6 chakra then the first orb would be red/blue and the others would be the usual orange.

    Then have a big strong as hell oGCD (or GCD if you have to) that takes a 10 stack but have it on a cooldown long enough, or on an animation lock long enough (like LB3 levels of animation lock here) that you're not ALWAYS building up to it, and still have incentive to manage the gauge to chuck out 5 stacks when it's a good time to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meowmaou View Post
    Let the chakra meter get a second tier, have the orbs burn blue or red or something as you fill that tier, ie if you had 6 chakra then the first orb would be red/blue and the others would be the usual orange.

    Then have a big strong as hell oGCD (or GCD if you have to).
    Somehow, I'm getting images of Lost Ark's Scrapper (alternates between two colors of energy types/builders) and Soulfist (big Chakra burst) blended together. Not an unattractive thought.

    I'd consider how you might limit the "strong as hell" ability without simply putting it on a CD a la Senei/Guren, though. You can always default back to such, but I imagine the alternatives, if found, would be more enticing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    I'd consider how you might limit the "strong as hell" ability without simply putting it on a CD a la Senei/Guren, though. You can always default back to such, but I imagine the alternatives, if found, would be more enticing.
    I've always wanted phys DPS jobs to have a skill with nutty motion lock and cast time to force you to commit and be really careful where you use it. Had the thought when I was playing DNC, thinking it could make it a bit less... you know, braindead. Just a pinch of BLM in my physical DPS jobs.

    I get it'd be weird to balance, though. I just think it'd be cool. Like a huge goddamn punch that takes 5 seconds to charge up and dumps all your chakra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meowmaou View Post
    I've always wanted phys DPS jobs to have a skill with nutty motion lock and cast time
    *Random thoughts of Rising Uppercut (which would warrant an animation lock), Omnistrike (which effectively would reduce or remove player movement control for a moment), Phantom Flurry (Suzaku's channel with a bursty secondary release as follow-up), etc.*

    Personally, I wouldn't go for anything like "5 seconds to charge up". Even a single GCD's time feels LONG on Monk. But I'd be cool with the occasional ability like that being situationally optimal if its timing were flexible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    *Random thoughts of Rising Uppercut (which would warrant an animation lock), Omnistrike (which effectively would reduce or remove player movement control for a moment), Phantom Flurry (Suzaku's channel with a bursty secondary release as follow-up), etc.*

    Personally, I wouldn't go for anything like "5 seconds to charge up". Even a single GCD's time feels LONG on Monk. But I'd be cool with the occasional ability like that being situationally optimal if its timing were flexible.
    Honestly the thing I want most is just a goddamn suplex. But I don't ever see SE implementing that with how uniquely it'd have to be handled in terms of how it would interact with the enemy. At least for bosses. I guess for regular mobs it could work like an extended stun. Assassinate on NIN is already kinda a "grab" in a way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meowmaou View Post
    Let the chakra meter get a second tier, have the orbs burn blue or red or something as you fill that tier, ie if you had 6 chakra then the first orb would be red/blue and the others would be the usual orange.
    This gave me a idea, for the Chakra resource redesign that I had been to post earlier... Light Chakra could have a sort of "over-drive" mode, which I have made the decision to name chi/ki/Qi gates, where the Monk can temporarily enter a over-drive mode, by means of to "open a chi/ki/Qi gate", where the first gate would make the Monk glow Orange/Yellow, like Widargelt, when we fight him at the end of the ARR Monk quests, and then there could be two other chi/ki/Qi gates, that make the Monk glow blue and red, like the WoL and Lyse in the StormBlood opening theme, and turn the (normally orange/yellow)light Chakras blue or red, respectively.
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    [...]A much better thing to do with a large amount of actions, too many for a player to use all of the actions, is to create in-class diversity. ...hieh.. my disappointment finds it mind-blowing stupid that FFXIV never did this, and has always done that delete actions nonsense, instead.[...] ------------ [...]"I want you to lower me down into my coffin... so that you can.. let. me. down.. one. last. time." - 6.0 Dark Knight[...]
    [...]"...you want to know.. why I chose to abandon the abyss for the void? ...It is simple. That power of darkness did fail me, so I chose to embrace a new power of the darkness...." - Anahlise, a Reaper[...]

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    Not bad at all. It's a interesting suggestion.
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