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    Quote Originally Posted by 0Lime View Post
    As someone who's been playing MMOs since 2002 I can tell you that you're huffing some massive copium right now
    He's a level 90 Paladin and he's complaining he hasn't been playing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    He's a level 90 Paladin and he's complaining he hasn't been playing.

    you do know you can get to level 90 on one class through the story yes? and endwalker has been released for early access since the 3rd, if one got on early, skipped not speaking dialogue, or even just played normally they could get there as long as the server doesnt boot them once they are on (as has happened to me a few times, like right now, 90002 error, then 2002 when reconnecting, but keep white knighting the company that isnt giving what they offered (early access when you dont have the ability to log in when you want, or have to wait hours, isnt early access, plus, all those that didnt have early access, it hindered their ability to play as well, correct?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya420 View Post
    you do know you can get to level 90 on one class through the story yes? and endwalker has been released for early access since the 3rd, if one got on early, skipped not speaking dialogue, or even just played normally they could get there as long as the server doesnt boot them once they are on (as has happened to me a few times, like right now, 90002 error, then 2002 when reconnecting, but keep white knighting the company that isnt giving what they offered (early access when you dont have the ability to log in when you want, or have to wait hours, isnt early access, plus, all those that didnt have early access, it hindered their ability to play as well, correct?)
    Yeah I'm a level 90 I know and I've been playing everyday for long hours. Unless you skip cuts you're going to need to be putting in long hours playing the game to get to 90. Asking for a month free playtime when you've been on for an awful lot of time is a bit over the top. Doesn't surprise me though from some regulars on this forum.

    Not blaming those who haven't' been able to play. I understand the issue I am in a 5000 queue on Balmung at the moment and the queue is slow and I've been in many queues during prime time this past week. For those who can only play in prime time I feel for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Yeah I'm a level 90 I know and I've been playing everyday for long hours. Unless you skip cuts you're going to need to be putting in long hours playing the game to get to 90. Asking for a month free playtime when you've been on for an awful lot of time is a bit over the top. Doesn't surprise me though from some regulars on this forum.

    Not blaming those who haven't' been able to play. I understand the issue I am in a 5000 queue on Balmung at the moment and the queue is slow and I've been in many queues during prime time this past week. For those who can only play in prime time I feel for them.
    yeah its kind of annoying, theres been a few times where ive hopped off willingly due to friends wanting to play other games even though i was on trying to get through msq during the start of early access, but it is what it is, im only on the lvl 85 quests atm, due to that, plus the queue times, and real life stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya420 View Post
    you do know you can get to level 90 on one class through the story yes? and endwalker has been released for early access since the 3rd, if one got on early, skipped not speaking dialogue, or even just played normally they could get there as long as the server doesnt boot them once they are on (as has happened to me a few times, like right now, 90002 error, then 2002 when reconnecting, but keep white knighting the company that isnt giving what they offered (early access when you dont have the ability to log in when you want, or have to wait hours, isnt early access, plus, all those that didnt have early access, it hindered their ability to play as well, correct?)
    Don't think they were white knighting looks to me like they made an observation. Truth be told he is level 90 and is asking for 1 month free time. For all we actually know the OP may have played 16 hours a day every day since the expansion launched. I think they were just calling out the BS in the OPs post.

    Also not one cares if you got your early access not even SE. You did not pay anything additional for the early access so I am not understanding why people want to continue to bring this up as if they were robbed them of early access. The situation sucks time to get over it.

    If you read SEs statement they will give us 1 week and depending on the situation that may increase. We will have to wait and see what improvements can be made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    Don't think they were white knighting looks to me like they made an observation. Truth be told he is level 90 and is asking for 1 month free time. For all we actually know the OP may have played 16 hours a day every day since the expansion launched. I think they were just calling out the BS in the OPs post.

    Also not one cares if you got your early access not even SE. You did not pay anything additional for the early access so I am not understanding why people want to continue to bring this up as if they were robbed them of early access. The situation sucks time to get over it.

    If you read SEs statement they will give us 1 week and depending on the situation that may increase. We will have to wait and see what improvements can be made.
    reason why its being brought up is, like layla was calling out the "bs" on the OP, people have to call out BS on the companies, its our job as consumers, if we dont, if we just sit back and shell money out without a second thought, service will never improve, they will think everything is running smooth and the player base is happy, correct? and if early access is meaningless, why allow pre-purchase to give early access? hmm? could it be a selling point for supporting the company and the game maybe? so said money can go towards improving the stability and capacity of said game? this is generally supposed to be the case, company gets more money for a launch, % of the proceeds/profits go for game improvements, the rest go for employees/stays with the company to keep them in the green
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya420 View Post
    reason why its being brought up is, like layla was calling out the "bs" on the OP, people have to call out BS on the companies, its our job as consumers, if we dont, if we just sit back and shell money out without a second thought, service will never improve, they will think everything is running smooth and the player base is happy, correct? and if early access is meaningless, why allow pre-purchase to give early access? hmm? could it be a selling point for supporting the company and the game maybe? so said money can go towards improving the stability and capacity of said game? this is generally supposed to be the case, company gets more money for a launch, % of the proceeds/profits go for game improvements, the rest go for employees/stays with the company to keep them in the green
    If you really want to blame any one blame consumerism as a whole. SE actually did not spend nearly as much advertising this expansion that others in the past. The game population doubled (almost tripled) a few months after the expansion was announced and these were not small numbers we are talking about. This was about 10 million subscribers to almost 30 million. This was mostly due to twitch / youtube streamers. See the video game industry as of late (maybe 10 years) has followed hype trains caused by streamers which has cause consumers to end up getting burned. You can notice this based off the popular type of game that is being released in droves. 10 years ago it was survival games, the past 5 or so years now is has been battle royale games. Even SE has jumped on this hype train with there stupid looking mobile game. Problem is most consumers at least in the video game industry consume based off hype and not off of self interest and the industry knows this as well.

    Due to this type train coming to FFXIV the subscription and player base almost tripled with in a quarter which happened to be the quarter before the expansions release. This is unfortunate as SE has to make a decision to disappoint the consumer or disappoint the share holder. Disappointing the shareholders in this case would in turn also disappoint the consumer as this would mean to delay the expansion potentially 2 quarters to obtain the servers needed (Potentially 2 quarters based off the recent update regarding this). Launching the game as is will have issues disappoint the consumers but the share holders are going to see profits. Any large company is going to disappoint the consumer before disappointing the share holders as they matter more to there financial future.

    Truth be told they have been fairly transparent in most of this process. Is it possible something could have been done sooner to prevent this? Absolutely but I think people need to also look at the broad picture and accept a little bit of reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    He's a level 90 Paladin and he's complaining he hasn't been playing.
    i'm just level 84 after 6 days (that i could barely play tnx to SE). Can i complain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garten View Post
    i'm just level 84 after 6 days (that i could barely play tnx to SE). Can i complain?
    You "can" do anything you want, but you shouldn't. Everyone is dissatisfied about the situation. If it actually makes you mad at SE, then quit. If you're not willing to quit, then you're not actually mad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viirin View Post
    You "can" do anything you want, but you shouldn't. Everyone is dissatisfied about the situation. If it actually makes you mad at SE, then quit. If you're not willing to quit, then you're not actually mad.
    If i could get a reimbourse of this expansion, pause my account for a mounth or two, without cancelling my account i would.. but i can't so i think i have to suck it up and stay quiet unfortunately..
    For what i know if i ask a reimburse SE will delete my account and that would be too much even if, believe me, i was so angry in the past few days that i thought about it..
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