SE I present you the cloud !

[Naiw]

I can only imagine how incompetent a company has to be to run not one but two MMO's so successfully for nearly 2 decades. I'm surprised they didn't ask to forum for help years ago.

I’m not sure what part you don’t understand.

[Artemiz]

I’m not sure what part you don’t understand.

That would be your definition of the word competent. I get it, the launch has had some serious problems, while it's not fun for anyone it's also not without precedent as many many game launches have similar issues.

I am not a server engineer however i have played video games since long before online gaming was even a thing, this is not my first rodeo. It's quite obvious to me that these problem happen because if a company provides a server infrastructure so big that everyone has a flawless experience when the servers are at their absolute maximum stress (launch week) then the company is losing serious money for every other week of the games life.

Your position seems to be that SE are simply incompetent, this is a position fundamentaly at odds with the reality of the fact that we are talking about a company that successsfully run not one but two MMO's for 20 years. Nobody should be taken seriously if they suggested that Rolls Royce don't know what they are doing if an engine goes bang, that would be patently absurd.

Your position is clearly so extreme, agenda driven and bias that at no point should it be taken seriously.

I hope that clears up my confusion.

[Naiw]

That would be your definition of the word competent. I get it, the launch has had some serious problems, while it's not fun for anyone it's also not without precedent as many many game launches have similar issues.

I am not a server engineer however i have played video games since long before online gaming was even a thing, this is not my first rodeo. It's quite obvious to me that these problem happen because if a company provides a server infrastructure so big that everyone has a flawless experience when the servers are at their absolute maximum stress (launch week) then the company is losing serious money for every other week of the games life.

Your position seems to be that SE are simply incompetent, this is a position fundamentaly at odds with the reality of the fact that we are talking about a company that successsfully run not one but two MMO's for 20 years. Nobody should be taken seriously if they suggested that Rolls Royce don't know what they are doing if an engine goes bang, that would be patently absurd.

Your position is clearly so extreme, agenda driven and bias that at no point should it be taken seriously.

I hope that clears up my confusion.

The difference here though is not that this is a launch specific thing, they had the exact same issue this spring when there was a mass influx of players; at least in europe there has always been a queue since around april/may this year (despite small about 200-300 people over all, which practically meant around 5-10 minutes queue time).
Even at that point it was known the server capacity was too low, to mitigate this SE stopped selling final fantasy. Now they obviously sold a shit load of endwalker licenses and this includes not only a influx of new players but a huge load of previous players that been on hiatus awaiting the new expansion. At the same time they've been driving advertisments and made the "trail/free" version a lot more generous in hope of getting additional people hooked. While at the sametime making little to no efforts in expanding the server infrastructure, now the official reason is the pandemic; yet YoshiP just recently said they _will_ expand the current datacenters with the hardware they _already_ secured, and you white knights still believe this company.

[Artemiz]

The difference here though is not that this is a launch specific thing, they had the exact same issue this spring when there was a mass influx of players; at least in europe there has always been a queue since around april/may this year (despite small about 200-300 people over all, which practically meant around 5-10 minutes queue time).
Even at that point it was known the server capacity was too low, to mitigate this SE stopped selling final fantasy. Now they obviously sold a shit load of endwalker licenses and this includes not only a influx of new players but a huge load of previous players that been on hiatus awaiting the new expansion. At the same time they've been driving advertisments and made the "trail/free" version a lot more generous in hope of getting additional people hooked. While at the sametime making little to no efforts in expanding the server infrastructure, now the official reason is the pandemic; yet YoshiP just recently said they _will_ expand the current datacenters with the hardware they _already_ secured, and you white knights still believe this company.

They have been open and up front about the server issues for some time now. If you don't want to actually listen thats up to you.