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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavikon View Post
    Except no one is paying for early access. They are paying for the game. Paying early allows for potential to play early, but is not a guarantee. He isn't paying extra for the early weekend, there was not a $5 fee added to the monthly fee if you accessed Endwalker content this weekend.
    I did not pay for early access. I paid my monthly sub. I have not been able to play the game I bought access to with my monthly sub. 2002 error are preventing people from accessing the game as a whole, not just EW.

    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    But if you paid for 4 apples and got 7 you got 3 free apples. And you might get more...
    Right now, yes, I am still receiving 3 free apples. But please tell me you are not naive enough to believe the problem will be fixed in the next 3 days. Save this post and quote me on it if it happens.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    They are "adding" 7 days, You didnt Pay for those 7 days.
    Thus, they are Free.

    Even if you were to go pay for 7 days right now, they are still adding 7 days to your account.
    Do the math, you now have 14 days, but you only paid for half of those days, the other half was given to you for free.
    So its still a Free 7 days
    If I pay for 7 days of playtime to get 7 days worth of playtime and got 0 hours of playtime due to a failure on SE's part and then they add 7 days of playtime at a later date, it's NOT FREE. It's what I paid for and they didn't provide at the time I paid for it.

    It's really not that hard to understand. If apples are too complex think about oranges.
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    Why are people so very set on keeping themselves mad about this?

    "I'M SO MAD! WE SHOULD GET FREE STUFF!"

    "we understand you all are mad, here is some free stuff"

    "IT'S NOT FREE! I AM SO MAD!"
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    But that is not the situation.
    Oh so we are able to log in freely without issue and play what we paid for?

    What game am I even trying to queue into then?
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  4. #14
    Player lezard21's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Why are people so very set on keeping themselves mad about this?

    "I'M SO MAD! WE SHOULD GET FREE STUFF!"

    "we understand you all are mad, here is some free stuff"

    "IT'S NOT FREE! I AM SO MAD!"
    Speak for others, I have not demanded for free stuff. I have demanded for what I paid for. Simple.

    E:

    The correct way to make the announcement would have been "We are reimbursing you 7 days of playtime from your subscription. We might reimburse more days at a later date if the problem persists".

    vvv You do realise the topics discussed are completely different right? Nice strawman though, I r8 8/8
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    Last edited by lezard21; 12-06-2021 at 03:21 PM.

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    Wait a minute, I recognize that face. Aren't you the one who suggested they should arbitrarily auto-kick anybody who hasn't changed maps every 30 minutes, but extend that time for non-crafters and those who happen to be playing on new Endwalker maps?

    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    More exceptions can be added like 1 hour in EW areas, I just cited some examples.

    Crafter can be done at a later time after Early Access. It's not a priority.
    Now you're pretending it's about honoring what customers paid for? You didn't seem to think so in that other thread. Crafters pay their subs just as much as you do. And so do I, even though I'm still trying to get through Stormblood MSQ. You can keep your rotten apples, OP. They're full of worms!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    Speak for others, I have not demanded for free stuff. I have demanded for what I paid for. Simple.
    I agree, I don’t care about free anything, I just want what I paid for. Pretty simple really.

    It doesn’t help things with people trying to defend this though, it’s a bit weird to watch really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    Speak for others, I have not demanded for free stuff. I have demanded for what I paid for. Simple.
    Yet here you are with a topic complaining about how the free time we are being given should not be called free because.. wah.

    You paid for a months subscription. At the moment they are crediting you 168 hours more for no charge. This is what we call free. Regardless of a players situation, they are being allotted these days. You can complain about your particular situation all you like and quite honestly I feel for the EU servers since they're getting gobsmacked and were obviously not prepared for this at all. BUT.. now you have a new topic absolutely denying that they've done what they've done because you want to try and make them look like villains when all you really need to do is state what your problem is and not embellish it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    Right now, yes, I am still receiving 3 free apples. But please tell me you are not naive enough to believe the problem will be fixed in the next 3 days. Save this post and quote me on it if it happens.
    You like to pick little details to inflate, ignoring everything else, so you can pretend people said something else, don't you. I'll just let you keep arguing with yourself.
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    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyaNimfa View Post
    Only if you dress in white and wear a fedora!

    Adding something you failed to supply which was paid for is not free. If you went to a store and paid for a bag of apples and they didn’t give it to you, then turned around and said “hey have a bag of apples free instead!”

    Would you simp for that company?
    Or I can be reasonable and do Basic Math.
    If you have 30 days of Playtime, and SE gives you 7, that is 37 Days.
    You paid for the 30 days, you didnt Pay for the additional 7. Thus, 7 Free Days
    Its very, Very, VERY Simple Math.
    They didnt Fail to deliver Play time, the playtime is on your account. How can they have failed to give that to you, when its already there?

    And no, I dont simp for any company.
    Plus how can I pay for a Bag of Apples and they didnt give me any apples? There is a Big Fundamental Flaw in your Example here, when you pay money, you get something in return as a trade. If I was gonna buy apples and they didnt give me any apples, they dont get the money.
    If they suddenly decide to just give me some apples and not ask for payment, then yes, I just got free apples.
    SE is not asking for you to make a another payment for those 7 days. They are Giving them to you and not asking for an additional purchase.
    Thus...they are Free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyaNimfa View Post
    Oh so we are able to log in freely without issue and play what we paid for?

    What game am I even trying to queue into then?
    You are really bad at this.
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    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
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