would the "white knights" give a pass if this happen in other industries?

[Veridiano02]

Companies with different activities are too different to compare them, so the only real comparation you can make is with other gaming companies. And if we do, we realize that this happened before, and will happen again with every single online tittle you launch. And so, instead of defending or attacking, we should ask why is that. Perhaps computing something so complex with so many variables that will generate dozens of variables and from there dozens more, and we have to add over it the fact that millions of people are gonna conect and use it, is imposible to predict, and so, is inevitable to suffer a collapse of the first few days and weeks? Perhaps a company doesn't allow a team to buy hardware because it may an unnecesary spent in the long run? Perhaps such hardware was unavailable because of a shortage crisis? Perhaps is all of that, at the same time? Put the recent, totally surprise large number of both streamers and players that Blizz collapse generate into the mix and you may have a recipe for disaster. Someone said "they should have bought the servers well in advance". Well, two months ago, while in the most intense phase of preparing the Endwalkers expansion pack suddenly an explosion of new players apperead, collapsing the servers back, then, so they really didn't had so much time. Specially if we take in account, the shortage crisis was already there when this explosion take place. There are many questions from which we don't the answer. What we do know, however, is that the same thing happened with every single online game to date.

[Phaty]

Companies with different activities are too different to compare them, so the only real comparation you can make is with other gaming companies. And if we do, we realize that this happened before, and will happen again with every single online tittle you launch. And so, instead of defending or attacking, we should ask why is that. Perhaps computing something so complex with so many variables that will generate dozens of variables and from there dozens more, and we have to add over it the fact that millions of people are gonna conect and use it, is imposible to predict, and so, is inevitable to suffer a collapse of the first few days and weeks? Perhaps a company doesn't allow a team to buy hardware because it may an unnecesary spent in the long run? Perhaps such hardware was unavailable because of a shortage crisis? Perhaps is all of that, at the same time? Put the recent, totally surprise large number of both streamers and players that Blizz collapse generate into the mix and you may have a recipe for disaster. Someone said "they should have bought the servers well in advance". Well, two months ago, while in the most intense phase of preparing the Endwalkers expansion pack suddenly an explosion of new players apperead, collapsing the servers back, then, so they really didn't had so much time. Specially if we take in account, the shortage crisis was already there when this explosion take place. There are many questions from which we don't the answer. What we do know, however, is that the same thing happened with every single online game to date.

Heresy! Ye shall not speak thine logic here!

[Makeda]

an example. if you ordered a new car. they delivered it on the day promised, but you find out you have to pull on the door handle a random number of times before the door will open and let you in. Also if the lock glitches out. you will have to start over again with a new number.

Depends on the industry and the company.

FFXIV has earned our trust over many years so they get passes I don't give to other companies.

Frankly... the same thing is something I say about my Tesla. But I give zero space for error to things like my internet browser.

If you've shown over time that you deliver good quality and that you care, you get passes when something goes wrong.

[Floortank]

Every big online game launch since 1999 has had problems due to a huge number of players trying to log in. This is nothing new or controversial.

[True-to-Caesar]

Depends on the company.
Blizzard no
Ea no
Active:no
Bandi yes
Nintendo: yes
Ubisoft/sega yes
Bioware: hell ya
Etc
It depends on how bad the total history is. Se has a rather great history.

Also far as i remember this expansion is only one with this issue massive increae in players with hard to get parts to hold everyone tbh.

Bioware...? Have you played any of their recent games ? It’s far far from the quality their games used to have when they had an actual good team.

[Neoyoshi]

Whataboutism is Not A Good Look, My Dude.

Yep, it's a very nonsensical talking point, and it doesn't solve any real problems, but Whataboutism is depressingly effective.

I get people are upset, I really do. I've had to realign my sleeping habits as if I lived somewhere in Europe just to completely beat the queue down to double-digit numbers; which not everyone has the luxury of doing.


I've been on this ride for a long time and they've always appeared to be genuinely forthcoming about what problems they run into, and if they were able to open up another data center, let alone a server- I believe that they
absolutely would; they've proven to us in the past that this is what they would do if the population got out of control.

But we all know why they can't, the whole industry is suffering from the shortage of computing parts; this is not a secret.

[magicookiemeow]

Depends on the company.
Blizzard no
Ea no
Active:no
Bandi yes
Nintendo: yes
Ubisoft/sega yes
Bioware: hell ya
Etc
It depends on how bad the total history is. Se has a rather great history.

Also far as i remember this expansion is only one with this issue massive increae in players with hard to get parts to hold everyone tbh.

previous expansion had same problem .but carry on defending

[magicookiemeow]

Depends on the industry and the company.

FFXIV has earned our trust over many years so they get passes I don't give to other companies.

Frankly... the same thing is something I say about my Tesla. But I give zero space for error to things like my internet browser.

If you've shown over time that you deliver good quality and that you care, you get passes when something goes wrong.

this is what blind following is and it is called a cult.

[Dewslam]

Your Examples are Bloody Hilarious....are we being punked? I hope so, cause this was a Great Laugh.

Imagine the scandal of an airport being so busy lines are backed up and check ins are in disarray. Or that a manufacturer produces a flawed product. I mean, surely people never fly during the holidays or purchase microsoft consoles!

[Momo_Kozuki]

You should go check Blade and Soul forum to see the true form of "White Knights". That game's publishers literally spits on customers' face and their player base is small and full of pay-to-win, but some people till fervently defends NCWest.


Kinda cute if you think people defending SE cuz the company have proper reasons are white knights, while people who are blindly defending a company regardless of right or wrong are not.


What about people who just want to rant regardless of reasons and regardless of subjects? What kind of knight they are?