Suggestion for Sage regarding Eurkrasia

[AnotherPerson]

I'm fine with Eukrasia being on the GCD. The problem most people are having is that they're treating Eukrasia Prognosis as an instant GCD that they can immediately use, and that's really not the case - you have a hidden "1 second" cast time with Eukrasia's recast time being 1 second before you have access to Eukrasia Prognosis. The difference between Eukrasia Prognosis and a 1 second cast spell is that you can still move while casting it since Eukrasia itself is instant.

If you needed to shield half a second ago and changed your mind half a second later, chances are that you activated Eukrasia one GCD too late.

[Chyro]

The eukrasia heals are like pseudo-instant, having a 1-sec prepare cast and then being instant (and using the rest 1.5sec gcd as cooldown). So kinda like a semi-instant gcd? It's quite unique, don't think any other skill in the game functions like that. It gives it a nice feeling of being rewarding for thinking ahead, already preparing eukrasia when you have time to cast to then throw the enhanced heal while on the move. Changing it to off-gcd (and making the eukrasia skills be a full 2.5 gcd cooldown) would make it feel much more generic, in my opinion.

As for the suggestion of OP, sure why not. It's not like using the skill again to remove the status is something a player is otherwise unable to do - its possible to right-click the eukrasia status and turn it off that way. Would just be more convenient (and more intuitive) to be able to turn eukrasia off again by pressing the skill.

[Allegor]

Yeh I had a few times when, since Eukrasia isn't on a timer, I thought 'ohh, then I'll just activate the buff and leave it there till I need a Diagnosis shield'....except then I realize/remember Dosis also changes to its Eukrasian equivalent....oops

[DinahDemiurge]

Again, I'm aware. I'm saying I don't want to have to use my DoT when it's already on the enemy, nor shielding when my allies don't need the shields. I would like to switch back to using my normal damage ability if the situation changes to where I don't need any of the Eukrasian skills.

The toggle off would likely use a GCD anyway so just use the DoT.

[AnotherPerson]

Toggling off affects the GCD. I tried using "Eukrasia Prognosis" immediately after I right clicked the Eukrasia buff. What should happen is that the skill would activate Prognosis if there was no affect to the GCD.

What happened instead is that the animation of "Eukrasia Prognosis" would start, and then immediately stop and cancel before the skill swaps to "Prognosis". It would never use "Prognosis", so the action is never queued in the first place. If I were to mash the skill "Prognosis" after to queue the action, there would be a considerable delay from when I wanted to use the skill and when the skill finally activates at this point (~1 second on the GCD).

Based on that, we can tell there's a slight GCD delay as the skills swap from its Eukrasia form to its regular form.

Most likely, Eukrasia was designed so it was never meant to be turned off manually, or it'll end up creating a bad habit of delaying your GCD immensely over the course of a fight. That would be much worse than a freecure trap imo, because you get NOTHING done in a GCD rather than a 400 potency cure.

[Jallun]

Admittedly it's a bit difficult with a controller, but Eukrasia can be turned off manually - like other buffs - via the status list if you find it isn't needed for the next GCD. This also doesn't use up the other 1.5sec GCD window.

[Makeda]

Sage has felt fantastic to play so far! Almost everything I wanted out of Scholar but cleaner and friendlier to use on a class that feels rewarding. Just one small thing bugs me: when you use Eukrasia, you have to commit your next cast to one of your Eukrasian spells or awkwardly try and click off the Eukrasia buff from your hotbar. My suggestion is simple: make it so you can use Eukrasia again to cancel it.

I prefer the way it's working right now - so accidental double clicks during intense moments don't put me in the wrong state. If it was a toggle I'd be constantly checking my UI to figure out which state I'm in. As is now, I'm not doing that as so many spells change their look and light up that it's more clear what state I am in.

And I prefer game systems that require split second correct choices and frustrate a wrong choice OVER those that ask for a repeated rotation to be memorized. So this is working ideally for me at present.

[HyoMinPark]

As someone who played Heavensward Dark Knight (And enjoy Eukrasia specifically because it strongly resembles Dark Arts), Hell no.
Keep it on the GCD.
If it was off the global, They may aswell just make the Eukrasian versions extra buttons the way Physik/Adloq are.
I much prefer it the way it is, thanks.

HW Dark Arts was an oGCD that you could weave between 2 GCDs. It did not function the same way as Eukrasia, so pardon if I don’t see the resemblance here.

That said, after playing SGE, I’ve gotten used to how Eukrasia works now. If we were to get another oGCD, I’d prefer Phlegma or Toxicon to be it.

Admittedly it's a bit difficult with a controller, but Eukrasia can be turned off manually - like other buffs - via the status list if you find it isn't needed for the next GCD. This also doesn't use up the other 1.5sec GCD window.

It’s not a perfect solution, but could make a /statusoff macro for it. Though macros don’t queue very well in this game, so you will likely clip the next GCD. But probably around the same loss as having to hit Eukrasia a second time.

I was reminded of this because I used to have /statusoff macros for AST before Undraw was ever a thing.

[Maxilor]

Toxicon would be the perfect choice for becoming an OGCD.

It would justify it getting an entire mechanic around.

Like has been said in other threads already, right now it's just a glorified Ruin II with net neutral potency.

[IllyaPrisma]

Currently, the only change I feel Sage needs is for Rhizomata to grant an Addersting Stack. That's it. No additional buffs or nerfs required.