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    Suggestion for Sage regarding Eurkrasia

    Sage has felt fantastic to play so far! Almost everything I wanted out of Scholar but cleaner and friendlier to use on a class that feels rewarding. Just one small thing bugs me: when you use Eukrasia, you have to commit your next cast to one of your Eukrasian spells or awkwardly try and click off the Eukrasia buff from your hotbar. My suggestion is simple: make it so you can use Eukrasia again to cancel it. This helps Sages react to not needing to throw out shields (like if another players uses them or if heal-over-time ticks bring party members up to a safe health range, therefore not needing shields), so they can either prep normal heal casts or (more likely) not need to refresh Euk. Dosis to get rid of the Eukrasia buff.
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    most of sage's spells give out shields using Eukrasian Diagnosis and Eukrasian Prognosis just turns the normal version of the skills to an enhanced version of them to help out
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    Mhm, I know how it works! I'm just saying I'd like to be able to toggle it back off in the event I don't need the shielding from Euk. Prognosis/Euk. Diagnosis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TekkyAnonymous View Post
    Mhm, I know how it works! I'm just saying I'd like to be able to toggle it back off in the event I don't need the shielding from Euk. Prognosis/Euk. Diagnosis.
    /micon "Eukrasia"
    /ac "Eukrasia"
    /statusoff "Eukrasia"

    This macro will do exactly what you were asking for. Alternatively you can click it off on the buff bar.
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    I see what you're saying that you want to be able to have the ability to turn it off or on when you feel like using it, but you could also use it for the DoT effect that it gives to Eukrasian Dosis
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    Again, I'm aware. I'm saying I don't want to have to use my DoT when it's already on the enemy, nor shielding when my allies don't need the shields. I would like to switch back to using my normal damage ability if the situation changes to where I don't need any of the Eukrasian skills.
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    Last edited by TekkyAnonymous; 12-05-2021 at 05:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TekkyAnonymous View Post
    Again, I'm aware. I'm saying I don't want to have to use my DoT when it's already on the enemy, nor shielding when my allies don't need the shields. I would like to switch back to using my normal damage ability if the situation changes to where I don't need any of the Eukrasian skills.
    If you need to turn it off, then you also don't need the GCD you were going to use it on, and using another GCD such as Phelgma or Toxicon will not cancel the effect out. IOW, there is not much need for this and it sounds more like you are using Eukrasia when you don't actually need to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    If you need to turn it off, then you also don't need the GCD you were going to use it on, and using another GCD such as Phelgma or Toxicon will not cancel the effect out. IOW, there is not much need for this and it sounds more like you are using Eukrasia when you don't actually need to.
    The problem is how variable damage and healing is. Defensive cooldowns fall off, regens tick, enemies die or spawn, and then the weird stuff with how shields and healing register. A lot can change in half a second, and I would like to be able to go back on my decision after that half of a second. That's all I'm asking. Phlegma and Toxicon also use resources, so that's not really a reliable option to hold onto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TekkyAnonymous View Post
    Again, I'm aware. I'm saying I don't want to have to use my DoT when it's already on the enemy, nor shielding when my allies don't need the shields. I would like to switch back to using my normal damage ability if the situation changes to where I don't need any of the Eukrasian skills.
    The toggle off would likely use a GCD anyway so just use the DoT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DinahDemiurge View Post
    The toggle off would likely use a GCD anyway so just use the DoT.
    Not likely. It would just cancel the effect. The things is if they made this change, they might increase the recast timer on it, so if you change your mind and turn it off you'll have to wait a bit before you can use it again.

    I say just leave it as is, I fear a toggle would lead to gameplay that is far less optimal than having to toss out an unneeded shield or refreshing Edosis.

    edit: Now that I think about it, if you're a bit spammy with Eukrasia, it is probably better to just toss a shield on the tank or highest agro target. That will at least return your GCD to you through Toxicon.
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    Last edited by Gemina; 12-09-2021 at 04:01 PM.

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