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    PredatoryCatgirl's Avatar
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    The difference between a valid complaint and being a Karen

    If your big complaint is 2002 errors and getting kicked out of queue, okay, fine, that's something they can fix. That's something they probably should have fixed, but didn't. Now they are, and they're giving you 7 days free game time as compensation. This is a bad situation, and they arguably shouldn't have let it happen in the first place, but it did, and they're trying to make it better.

    If your complaint is lack of servers during a global pandemic that has entire supply lines ground to a standstill, please just shut up. There is absolutely no way short of a crystal ball that they could have predicted half of WoW jumping ship over here in time to prepare for it. They predicted the same level of growth they had prior to Shadowbringers, and this blew the doors off of it. The last time they could have ordered servers without a giant delay was early 2020. This happened in early to mid 2021. No amount of money can buy something that your supplier can't produce.

    In short, there are valid complaints, and if you're making one, I can only hope that the 7 days sub time is enough compensation to keep you playing. If you're making a complaint about something that cannot be helped due to a global emergency, please sit down and be quiet so the adults can have a conversation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    If your big complaint is 2002 errors and getting kicked out of queue, okay, fine, that's something they can fix. That's something they probably should have fixed, but didn't. Now they are, and they're giving you 7 days free game time as compensation. This is a bad situation, and they arguably shouldn't have let it happen in the first place, but it did, and they're trying to make it better.

    If your complaint is lack of servers during a global pandemic that has entire supply lines ground to a standstill, please just shut up. There is absolutely no way short of a crystal ball that they could have predicted half of WoW jumping ship over here in time to prepare for it. They predicted the same level of growth they had prior to Shadowbringers, and this blew the doors off of it. The last time they could have ordered servers without a giant delay was early 2020. This happened in early to mid 2021. No amount of money can buy something that your supplier can't produce.

    In short, there are valid complaints, and if you're making one, I can only hope that the 7 days sub time is enough compensation to keep you playing. If you're making a complaint about something that cannot be helped due to a global emergency, please sit down and be quiet so the adults can have a conversation.
    Well they already explained the 2002 error a few times and I assuming the fix you are mentioning when you get booted out of line and should have a grace period for you to log back in?
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    PredatoryCatgirl stop using covid as an excuse for their incompetence. they where in the office for a better part of an year. they are just being lazy.they haven't even implemented like they did previous expansions the thing where they kicked all players offline at a certain time. they have done nothing to pervent this from being as bad as it is.and on the point of wow jumping ship thing u clearly didn't see in the lodestone or any articles where yoshi p says he was suprised about the increase of players WAY before the expansion release. i don't think yoshi p would be that stupid and not try to get servers or implement something to make the expected increase of traffic be not as bad as it has been. all i have seen from yoshi p is hollow apologies. as i have been getting to the front of the queue all errors you can possilby imagine and not even being put back to where i was is not acceptable. i paid like many others for "EARLY ACCESS" and for me as a customer and long term player (ever since the beta) to not even be put in the position of the queue i was in is completly unexcetable. i don't mind waiting 5 hours fine,but for me to not even be put into where i was in the queue is a complete an utter joke and the WORST part it's going to get a lot lot worse when it's "fully realeased".
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdfgfxghf View Post
    PredatoryCatgirl stop using covid as an excuse for their incompetence. they where in the office for a better part of an year. they are just being lazy.they haven't even implemented like they did previous expansions the thing where they kicked all players offline at a certain time. they have done nothing to pervent this from being as bad as it is.and on the point of wow jumping ship thing u clearly didn't see in the lodestone or any articles where yoshi p says he was suprised about the increase of players WAY before the expansion release. i don't think yoshi p would be that stupid and not try to get servers or implement something to make the expected increase of traffic be not as bad as it has been. all i have seen from yoshi p is hollow apologies. as i have been getting to the front of the queue all errors you can possilby imagine and not even being put back to where i was is not acceptable. i paid like many others for "EARLY ACCESS" and for me as a customer and long term player (ever since the beta) to not even be put in the position of the queue i was in is completly unexcetable. i don't mind waiting 5 hours fine,but for me to not even be put into where i was in the queue is a complete an utter joke and the WORST part it's going to get a lot lot worse when it's "fully realeased".
    Ok Karen
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdfgfxghf View Post
    PredatoryCatgirl stop using covid as an excuse for their incompetence. they where in the office for a better part of an year. they are just being lazy.they haven't even implemented like they did previous expansions the thing where they kicked all players offline at a certain time. they have done nothing to pervent this from being as bad as it is.and on the point of wow jumping ship thing u clearly didn't see in the lodestone or any articles where yoshi p says he was suprised about the increase of players WAY before the expansion release. i don't think yoshi p would be that stupid and not try to get servers or implement something to make the expected increase of traffic be not as bad as it has been. all i have seen from yoshi p is hollow apologies. as i have been getting to the front of the queue all errors you can possilby imagine and not even being put back to where i was is not acceptable. i paid like many others for "EARLY ACCESS" and for me as a customer and long term player (ever since the beta) to not even be put in the position of the queue i was in is completly unexcetable. i don't mind waiting 5 hours fine,but for me to not even be put into where i was in the queue is a complete an utter joke and the WORST part it's going to get a lot lot worse when it's "fully realeased".
    Please educate yourself. It's clear you have no idea what you're talking about and are just throwing a tantrum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdfgfxghf View Post
    PredatoryCatgirl stop using covid as an excuse for their incompetence. they where in the office for a better part of an year. they are just being lazy.they haven't even implemented like they did previous expansions the thing where they kicked all players offline at a certain time. they have done nothing to pervent this from being as bad as it is.and on the point of wow jumping ship thing u clearly didn't see in the lodestone or any articles where yoshi p says he was suprised about the increase of players WAY before the expansion release. i don't think yoshi p would be that stupid and not try to get servers or implement something to make the expected increase of traffic be not as bad as it has been. all i have seen from yoshi p is hollow apologies. as i have been getting to the front of the queue all errors you can possilby imagine and not even being put back to where i was is not acceptable. i paid like many others for "EARLY ACCESS" and for me as a customer and long term player (ever since the beta) to not even be put in the position of the queue i was in is completly unexcetable. i don't mind waiting 5 hours fine,but for me to not even be put into where i was in the queue is a complete an utter joke and the WORST part it's going to get a lot lot worse when it's "fully realeased".

    They already said many times log in ques are going to be bad lol and also you didnt pay for "eArLy AcCEsS" early access was a bonus for preordering..... the main perk of preordering was the earing and companion thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zileth View Post
    They already said many times log in ques are going to be bad lol and also you didnt pay for "eArLy AcCEsS" early access was a bonus for preordering..... the main perk of preordering was the earing and companion thing
    And we technically did have the eArLy AcCEsS feature. They delivered it. We are able to access the game early just by logging in, with the Endwalker login screen at start menue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdfgfxghf View Post
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    I guess we found the type of person OP was talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdfgfxghf View Post
    ...and the WORST part it's going to get a lot lot worse when it's "fully realeased".
    No it won't. Early Access is just an EARLY ACCESS INTO ENDWALKER CONTENT. The same amount of people, no matter their current state of MSQ whether it's in Endwalker or just starting Stomrblood, are trying to log in concurrently. The release of Endwalker just means that you can't get the leveling earring or minion after Dec. 7th if you buy the license for it. The amount of people in the login queues will be the exact same until people beat the msq and then don't touch it for two years until the next, as some do, or until Savage progs are done, which also happens. The only thing that'll happen on the 7th is an uptick in people in EW areas if they're that far into the story and they didn't have the access that people who preordered did until then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainichan View Post
    No it won't. Early Access is just an EARLY ACCESS INTO ENDWALKER CONTENT. The same amount of people, no matter their current state of MSQ whether it's in Endwalker or just starting Stomrblood, are trying to log in concurrently. The release of Endwalker just means that you can't get the leveling earring or minion after Dec. 7th if you buy the license for it. The amount of people in the login queues will be the exact same until people beat the msq and then don't touch it for two years until the next, as some do, or until Savage progs are done, which also happens. The only thing that'll happen on the 7th is an uptick in people in EW areas if they're that far into the story and they didn't have the access that people who preordered did until then.
    A little louder for the miqo'te in the back.
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