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    This launch is a pure shame. As a legacy FF14 player, this is the worst exapansion launch ever seen.

    Pandemic is not a valid excuse when you knew the launch was coming.

    Do you really think Dell, HP (and many others...) stopped selling servers for datacenter? Its not the case, im working in datacenter and we build new server every month.

    Fact is, SE decided to not invest money in new server and they are using the pandemic as a dumb excuse.

    If they wanted to do it, they could have done it 8 month ago.

    They made a poor choice.
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    Compagnie libre Storm, serveur Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkel View Post
    Do you really think Dell, HP (and many others...) stopped selling servers for datacenter? Its not the case, im working in datacenter and we build new server every month.
    Do you really think that a Japanese game company buys Dell or HP Linux boxes to run this game?

    I routinely put in servers all over the place, and storage, and networking, and the software that runs on this stuff. They are not using commodity hardware of North American manufacture.
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    I'm just not happy that I paid prelaunch price to play FFXI - Endwaiter. 10-12 hours of watching and waiting for the queue to end (providing I don't get error 2002, which I just did 1 min ago.)
    What difference is paying now, versus at launch? It's the same price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkel View Post
    This launch is a pure shame. As a legacy FF14 player, this is the worst exapansion launch ever seen.

    Pandemic is not a valid excuse when you knew the launch was coming.

    Do you really think Dell, HP (and many others...) stopped selling servers for datacenter? Its not the case, im working in datacenter and we build new server every month.

    Fact is, SE decided to not invest money in new server and they are using the pandemic as a dumb excuse.

    If they wanted to do it, they could have done it 8 month ago.

    They made a poor choice.
    This is the worst expansion launch you've ever seen?

    2.0: game practically unplayable for the first few days. With their re-launch, there were bugs, lag, glitches and errors. The game crashed a lot and lets not talk about the problems with the instance servers. 2.0 was a mess at launch. Also, they didn't have an AFK timer at launch. So the chances you were getting in were slim.

    3.0: Lots of in game lag and connection issues. You'd be in the game and disconnect randomly. That's assuming that you could even get into the game to begin with. Instance server problems weren't as bad, but you could still DC in instances which caused your character to be "lost" for a while. The game had trouble moving you out on an instance back to the last zone you were in if you DCed. Heavensward was a very rough launch.

    4.0: Raubahn Extreme. They made the mistake of setting up a solo instance early in the MSQ. The instance servers buckled under the pressure of trying to create and maintain that many instances at once.

    5.0: Login issues.

    6.0: Login Issues.

    This is by far the smoothest expansion launch the game has ever seen. The worst part about it is the login issues. The login system is struggling with so many people trying to get in all at the same time. However, it is expansion launch time. Name one MMO that has not had any issues (with login or any in game problems) with a launch or expansion launch. Endwalker is actually one of the smoothest launches in a long time. The team is doing what they can to mitigate the issue as much as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iskander View Post
    This is the worst expansion launch you've ever seen?

    2.0: game practically unplayable for the first few days. With their re-launch, there were bugs, lag, glitches and errors. The game crashed a lot and lets not talk about the problems with the instance servers. 2.0 was a mess at launch. Also, they didn't have an AFK timer at launch. So the chances you were getting in were slim.

    3.0: Lots of in game lag and connection issues. You'd be in the game and disconnect randomly. That's assuming that you could even get into the game to begin with. Instance server problems weren't as bad, but you could still DC in instances which caused your character to be "lost" for a while. The game had trouble moving you out on an instance back to the last zone you were in if you DCed. Heavensward was a very rough launch.

    4.0: Raubahn Extreme. They made the mistake of setting up a solo instance early in the MSQ. The instance servers buckled under the pressure of trying to create and maintain that many instances at once.

    5.0: Login issues.

    6.0: Login Issues.

    This is by far the smoothest expansion launch the game has ever seen. The worst part about it is the login issues. The login system is struggling with so many people trying to get in all at the same time. However, it is expansion launch time. Name one MMO that has not had any issues (with login or any in game problems) with a launch or expansion launch. Endwalker is actually one of the smoothest launches in a long time. The team is doing what they can to mitigate the issue as much as possible.
    What mean? People that have zero knowledge in networking know what is REALLY going on. SE knew and did nothing! /s

    At least Dunning-Kruger is on full display.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GamesGainingTTV View Post
    Stop blaming covid for every last problem in the world, it was old a year ago and it's definitely old right now.
    And that's the mentality that keeps the pandemic going.
    If people took it more serious maybe things would've been different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velnora View Post
    What mean? People that have zero knowledge in networking know what is REALLY going on. SE knew and did nothing! /s

    At least Dunning-Kruger is on full display.
    Arm-Chair Devs and CEOs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    I'm just not happy that I paid prelaunch price to play FFXI - Endwaiter. 10-12 hours of watching and waiting for the queue to end (providing I don't get error 2002, which I just did 1 min ago.)
    What price did you pay extra for prelaunch??

    I am seeing so many people say they paid a pre-launch price for early access, when I am pretty darn sure we all paid the same amount of money when we ordered the game.
    Plus anyone buying the game after this pre-launch will be paying the same price we all paid when they announced the release for pre order.
    Not like the price will drop until maybe late next year then they "might" have a special or something. shrug.

    So again I ask those who claim they paid for a prelaunch please give me some price differences, Cause if you really paid more then the rest of us and anyone coming after us in - buying the expansion- then I would say you definitely didn't buy the game from SE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velnora View Post
    What mean? People that have zero knowledge in networking know what is REALLY going on. SE knew and did nothing! /s

    At least Dunning-Kruger is on full display.
    Then you obviously did not watch the live letter covering this. Or the info they put out covering this. They acknowledged the recent boom in players. They stated that their original intent was to deal with this after the launch, but the boom in player count has caused them to have to look at it now. Difficult since this came so close to the launch of the expac. They mentioned that CoVid caused supply chain issues. They were looking at getting more servers but there were none to purchase. They also mentioned that they were willing to pay well above retail price just to get the servers, but it didn't matter. The supply chain issues made it impossible for them. They mentioned doing all they could to fortify the servers and mitigate issues as much as possible. They also stated that there would be login issues BEFORE the expac launched but to bear with them. It's not that they didn't do anything. It's that they couldn't. They let everyone know they couldn't. They did what little they could but there was only so much they could do so close to launch.
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    Thing is that we judge by results. And the game is in unplayable state for most of us - when have to wait 2 hours on queue with the chance of crashing and go back to the end of the queue.
    Good in theory about semi cond chips, but truth is that we can't play the game.
    For those that say whats the price in difference for early access - the difference is that we paid much earlier so they received our money earlier than the product was delivered.
    For example, they had a good cash flow much earlier (to support development) from the pre-orders. But I dont think it's preoder issue or early access. The same would happen if we all logged in on normal day release.
    I believe if they dont drastically do something, the problem will not fade away for several weeks.
    If they should compensate something - it'd be because we cannot play right now - not because of early access.
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