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    Quote Originally Posted by Akasier View Post
    This is incorrect. Almost every other launch in my 20 years of being apart of does not randomly kick you from the queue and have you wait back at the end of the line, unless the full server goes down. In this situation, servers are up, people are waiting 4+ hours to get through the queue, then randomly every hour or two getting errored out and being sent back to the end of the line. That is not how to run a queue, that is not how to run a launch. As much as I love SE, this is their second worst launch. (Raubahn EX takes the cake).

    There was time to mitigate this, semiconductor issues aside. They chose not to - they mention the 2002 error, they needed to produce a system to hold your place if you get that error. They failed to do that, and as a result, some people have lost a full day of trying to play.
    fucking THIS, ive been sitting here for 4 hours now trying to get back in. queues arent the problem, getting punted to the back of the line is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akasier View Post
    This is incorrect. Almost every other launch in my 20 years of being apart of does not randomly kick you from the queue and have you wait back at the end of the line, unless the full server goes down. In this situation, servers are up, people are waiting 4+ hours to get through the queue, then randomly every hour or two getting errored out and being sent back to the end of the line. That is not how to run a queue, that is not how to run a launch. As much as I love SE, this is their second worst launch. (Raubahn EX takes the cake).

    There was time to mitigate this, semiconductor issues aside. They chose not to - they mention the 2002 error, they needed to produce a system to hold your place if you get that error. They failed to do that, and as a result, some people have lost a full day of trying to play.
    You, me, nor anyone else have no knowledge what they did or did not choose to do. In EVERY mmo, there is congestion and issues like this on launch and everyone always rails on how it's the worst launch they've ever seen. We may not get to play today. Oh well. That's life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBriggs304 View Post
    You, me, nor anyone else have no knowledge what they did or did not choose to do. In EVERY mmo, there is congestion and issues like this on launch and everyone always rails on how it's the worst launch they've ever seen. We may not get to play today. Oh well. That's life.
    Another incorrect assertion. They outright talk about error 2002, they know what causes it. They delayed the expansion by two weeks and had more than acceptable time to impliment systems, or could have delayed it again until they did. They opted not to. White knights are typically the ones actively playing and/or circumventing the afk system to begin wtih, so please, tell me again what my MMO experiences have been when I've played multiple MMOs, with mutliple launches and issues and can quite clearly confirm this is SE's second worst launch to date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akasier View Post
    Another incorrect assertion. They outright talk about error 2002, they know what causes it. They delayed the expansion by two weeks and had more than acceptable time to impliment systems, or could have delayed it again until they did. They opted not to. White knights are typically the ones actively playing and/or circumventing the afk system to begin wtih, so please, tell me again what my MMO experiences have been when I've played multiple MMOs, with mutliple launches and issues and can quite clearly confirm this is SE's second worst launch to date.
    Yes...we knew it was coming. Just like they talked about. Thank You.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akasier View Post
    Another incorrect assertion. They outright talk about error 2002, they know what causes it. They delayed the expansion by two weeks and had more than acceptable time to impliment systems, or could have delayed it again until they did. They opted not to.
    They were unable to. That is different to opted not to.

    We were told months ago that they knew this was an issue and they could not acquire the hardware to fix it.

    The two-week delay was for improving the software, not installing hardware that they presumably are still trying to get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akasier View Post
    Another incorrect assertion. They outright talk about error 2002, they know what causes it. They delayed the expansion by two weeks and had more than acceptable time to impliment systems, or could have delayed it again until they did. They opted not to. White knights are typically the ones actively playing and/or circumventing the afk system to begin wtih, so please, tell me again what my MMO experiences have been when I've played multiple MMOs, with mutliple launches and issues and can quite clearly confirm this is SE's second worst launch to date.
    I'm not willing to wait 6 months to a year for them to acquire hardware. You all can still play the expansion, its day one. Things will drop off quickly.

    Literally every MMO has had issues like this. Ya'll have incredibly selective memory if you think otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBriggs304 View Post
    Yes...we knew it was coming. Just like they talked about. Thank You.
    Again, they had the ability to fix it - stop your white knight or log out so someone else can play. It's easily done, WoW literally just did such a thing where if you are booted from the queue, you do not lose your place. Keep simping bud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akasier View Post
    Again, they had the ability to fix it - stop your white knight or log out so someone else can play. It's easily done, WoW literally just did such a thing where if you are booted from the queue, you do not lose your place. Keep simping bud.
    I didn't lose my place in queue. I got dropped at 700 after an hour and a half and rejoined at 700
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    They were unable to. That is different to opted not to.

    We were told months ago that they knew this was an issue and they could not acquire the hardware to fix it.

    The two-week delay was for improving the software, not installing hardware that they presumably are still trying to get.
    We were also told they had mitigation methods (other server selection from dropdown list) and a reserved spot in queue as long as we do not hit cancel, yet those did not happen. 6 hours of queue and being kicked to the end of the line is unjustifiable. Stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I didn't lose my place in queue. I got dropped at 700 after an hour and a half and rejoined at 700
    There are plenty of examples to be had of others having a different experience. I've been to 4000 7 different times today after being as low as 600.
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