World Transfer Applications Begin (03/01/2012)

[GreyJorildyn]

Anyone who thinks this is "the community's" fault is seriously white knighting. What has happened here is just another example of bad moves by SE. If you did not expect this to be a total mess whatsoever, no one can help you!

[Wynn]

Anyone who thinks this is "the community's" fault is seriously white knighting. What has happened here is just another example of bad moves by SE. If you did not expect this to be a total mess whatsoever, no one can help you!

Are you kidding me?

[Phrozen]

Anyone who thinks this is "the community's" fault is seriously white knighting. What has happened here is just another example of bad moves by SE. If you did not expect this to be a total mess whatsoever, no one can help you!

actually the whole reason for the change was due to the JP complaining

[Wynn]

actually the whole reason for the change was due to the JP complaining

Oh, that's right. English speaking players had NOTHING to do with this at all...

[neorei]

Oh, that's right. English speaking players had NOTHING to do with this at all...

yes the NA's were all over the place about this merge, I was going for a straight server and server merge, no transfer to another server, just a straight server merge.

[AreeyaJaidee]

Now anyone who wants to transfer has to wait for the EU players to decide that its finally time for them to start getting along with each other. Otherwise the sh!t stays capped.

[GreyJorildyn]

Are you kidding me?

No I'm not kidding you. You are going to blame the players for having an opinion? On a forum setup to discuss our opinions? SE should be at fault for listening then because they have the final say. What you're saying is SE is off the hook for:

- Generating different options (and initially proposing the dumbest one btw)
- Not realizing that certain options were not really feasible
- Being guilty of giving stupid people what they want
- Beginning this at some weird hour of the night for a lot of people
- Being generally unprepared for any of this crap.

We're paying customers. We clamor for "what we want" (or at least the vocal minority do), and you're gonna blame SE's incompetence on us? That's a joke if I've ever heard one. Perhaps if SE had some kinda clean track record when it came to these kindsa things I could chuckle a bit, but we all know that's not the case. This is a cluster**** as only SE can deliver, period.

[Elexia]

No I'm not kidding you. You are going to blame the players for having an opinion? On a forum setup to discuss our opinions? SE should be at fault for listening then because they have the final say. What you're saying is SE is off the hook for:

- Generating different options (and initially proposing the dumbest one btw)
- Not realizing that certain options were not really feasible
- Being guilty of giving stupid people what they want
- Beginning this at some weird hour of the night for a lot of people
- Being generally unprepared for any of this crap.

We're paying customers. We clamor for "what we want" (or at least the vocal minority do), and you're gonna blame SE's incompetence on us?

Lol, SE's "incompetence"....Yoshida decided on an option that worked out the best even if it may split off some people, players cried "nononono unfair to the inactive people and my friends who may not play!" SE listened to those cries, which is as you said, the point of these forums, then SE used the option that was more likely to create a mess, which hey look at that, a mess was created.

They weren't unprepared, they were well prepared for merging servers. Players just didn't like what they planned to do so you can't in any shape or form blame SE for this when it was the players who wanted them to change the way they did the merging.

We're paying customers but we're not always self-entitled to everything.

[Wynn]

No I'm not kidding you. You are going to blame the players for having an opinion? On a forum setup to discuss our opinions? SE should be at fault for listening then because they have the final say. What you're saying is SE is off the hook for:

- Generating different options (and initially proposing the dumbest one btw)
- Not realizing that certain options were not really feasible
- Being guilty of giving stupid people what they want
- Beginning this at some weird hour of the night for a lot of people
- Being generally unprepared for any of this crap.

We're paying customers. We clamor for "what we want" (or at least the vocal minority do), and you're gonna blame SE's incompetence on us? That's a joke if I've ever heard one. Perhaps if SE had some kinda clean track record when it came to these kindsa things I could chuckle a bit, but we all know that's not the case. This is a cluster**** as only SE can deliver, period.

Yes, I blame anyone who is ignorant to the facts spouting off opinions and demands. It is the cause of most of the world's problems. Shortly followed by the customer is always right mentality.

It went down like this.

SE announces the right choice.
Players form lynch mob.
SE gives in and gives players exactly what they want, the wrong choice.
Players come back and complain that SE gave them what they wanted once they realize what their choice actually meant.

Do I blame SE for that? Why would I? Why would you?

P.S. The "dumbest one" as you put it is exactly what you now want and are complaining about not having.

This forum is full of derp today and I love it.

[Ayamia]

Not even the first day - the first MINUTE. I stayed up to be able to transfer to Balmung, and at 3:01 AM four servers already showed an X. The others went down quickly after.

I think they were X from the beginning. They were closed 1 minute before it should've opened anyway. Yes, the transfer was open a minute before it's time.