World Transfer Applications Begin (03/01/2012)

[Murugan]

Personally I think we need a new thread where the few, irate people who opposed the communities backlash at the first merger idea get to just berate all those idiots that cried about losing their community and got SE to change the merger method. I've been reading/posting on these threads since the application went live yesterday, and there are very few people who feel this way, because most of the dumbies posting were for this merger method. Suck it up and live on your respective servers.

Goes to show you, 99% of the people posting are idiots. The guys posting pictures, are the best ones btw. Need more Ben Affleck and Zap Brannigan posts.

The only problem causing the servers to be "full" is Ragnorak. It has so few people that they closed the rest of the servers to try and drive people there.

The vast majority of the community who wanted a regular/sane merger, never really wanted Ragnorak anyways.

Apparently neither did most Europeans. If anyone should be mocked it is all the idiots who cried for regional servers, and how given the choice everyone would flock to a server where they could finally be free of all the tyrannical JP only players.

Well why aren't they going to Ragnorak?

[Ookami]

The only problem causing the servers to be "full" is Ragnorak. It has so few people that they closed the rest of the servers to try and drive people there.

It's may be one reason but keep in mind that's a merge, servers have to have an average size of players and giving too much possibility to move will only create desequilibrated servers, so SE is restraining migration for that reason too.

[Answa]

The only problem causing the servers to be "full" is Ragnorak. It has so few people that they closed the rest of the servers to try and drive people there.

The vast majority of the community who wanted a regular/sane merger, never really wanted Ragnorak anyways.

Apparently neither did most Europeans. If anyone should be mocked it is all the idiots who cried for regional servers, and how given the choice everyone would flock to a server where they could finally be free of all the tyrannical JP only players.

Well why aren't they going to Ragnorak?

I love how you spell Ragnarok. Thrice.

[TheFatHousecat]

I love how you spell Ragnarok. Thrice.

FINALLY someone notices, I thought I was the only one.

RAGNORACK

[Nabiri]

I'm honestly a bit surprised at the impatience of people about not being able to choose the server they want on the first day.
Everyone knew that servers were merging along with choices to move. Perhaps people assumed the servers could hold more than they can. There's plenty of time still. If I were moving I'd be at the server merge page as much as possible, waiting for people to move out. Good luck to everyone.

Masamune in particular seems quite a popular name.. Good luck to those who want that one. :x

I thought option 4 was best. People could go wherever they like. But people chose to limit themselves. It's too bad.

[Murugan]

I'm honestly a bit surprised at the impatience of people about not being able to choose the server they want on the first day.
Everyone knew that servers were merging along with choices to move. Perhaps people assumed the servers could hold more than they can. There's plenty of time still. If I were moving I'd be at the server merge page as much as possible, waiting for people to move out. Good luck to everyone.

Masamune in particular seems quite a popular name.. Good luck to those who want that one. :x

I thought option 4 was best. People could go wherever they like. But people chose to limit themselves. It's too bad.

Yeah because servers couldn't possibly fill up if everyone and not just 5% of the population was forced to choose a new server (like for example in every MMO launch ever).

Can't see any problems with that, lol.

[TheFatHousecat]

Yeah because servers couldn't possibly fill up if everyone and not just 5% of the population was forced to choose a new server (like for example in every MMO launch ever).

Can't see any problems with that, lol.

The problem, if you'd call it that, with this option is the existing populations creating very limited space for transfers between servers. In option #4, every server would have been empty and people would have been able to migrate in larger amounts. There are exceptions either way, but yeah. Would have been much different had we gone with the other option, at the least for those who wanted to join other communities rather than merge with the defaults.

[Murugan]

The problem, if you'd call it that, with this option is the existing populations creating very limited space for transfers between servers. In option #4, every server would have been empty and people would have been able to migrate in larger amounts. There are exceptions either way, but yeah. Would have been much different had we gone with the other option, at the least for those who wanted to join other communities rather than merge with the defaults.

There's no difference if server 1 and 10 filled up by 3 am too, and only half of a linkshell got in.

The most popular servers were overfull during the Collector's edition pre-launch access, causing horrendous lag. But they didn't have a limit then. With option 4 there would have been a limit, and the most popular servers would still fill up very fast. You would have the same problem.

[TheFatHousecat]

There's no difference if server 1 and 10 filled up by 3 am too, and only half of a linkshell got in.

But there is a difference, because in option #4 there would have been a higher chance that entire communities could migrate with few casualties because the server in question is EMPTY. In this option, there's barely enough room for a full endgame LS in the allowed spaces, so if more than one LS or more than a few large groups of people decide to move to the same server, chances are a lot of people are going to get the short end of the stick, unfortunately.

The most popular servers were overfull during the Collector's edition pre-launch access, causing horrendous lag. But they didn't have a limit then. With option 4 there would have been a limit, and the most popular servers would still fill up very fast. You would have the same problem.

Difference being that that was RELEASE. There were more people vying for servers because we were still somewhat oblivious to the failure of a game XIV would prove. And the lack of limit back then just meant that when people left because of disappointment in their gaming experience, we ended up with very unbalanced server populations. It makes sense that SE wants to downsize, so to speak, so that the people that still play can feel like they're on lively servers.


Yes, like I said, in both options there would have still been exceptions, but what you're failing to see is that people assumed that option #2 would still allow a large amount of server transfers. While we get some transfers, we're not exactly allowed to go wherever we want (option #4) because in this option the existing populations of the servers involved are taken into account when creating a capacity for transfers.

[Endless]

The option to transfer is a courtesy for those that want to move it is no guarantee that there would be room on the server you want, the option the community chose was in no way going to allow mass amounts of people to go where they want since people were not removed from the servers.