Monk Positionals 6.0

[Tetsujin]

I feel like people don't like nuance and/or don't realize not all classes are for them. Every strict rotation type of melee class has died as well. That and they're always accepting less. Don't have to manage movement? Don't like timers? Well let's ignore the classes that are less tight, they just HAVE to change the ones that are. It's a shame. I hope it never fully happens but this game is gonna end up extremely homogenized.

[Daralii]

I just find it funny that the job previously defined by its positionals now has fewer positionals than DRG.

[Morzy]

What the crap?

I thought we were only getting positional changes to True Strike and Twin Snakes.

Why make a job less challenging? Am I just a speedy dragoon without a spear?

[Morzy]

You're thinking of Forms, not positionals. All melee DPS have positionals.

You are correct in that each melee job has positionals, but are you also aware that Monk had two positional requirements for each of the three forms?

Monk was known for dancing around the enemy and attacking its 'weak spots' with an accompanying increase in damage. Nothing you say can change this.

[Kolsykol]

I feel like people don't like nuance and/or don't realize not all classes are for them. Every strict rotation type of melee class has died as well. That and they're always accepting less. Don't have to manage movement? Don't like timers? Well let's ignore the classes that are less tight, they just HAVE to change the ones that are. It's a shame. I hope it never fully happens but this game is gonna end up extremely homogenized.

To some extent I agree with you, but I still think that they play/ will play very differently.
They all do feel different.

If you want to see what homogenization looks like try ESO.

[Morzy]

My thought on it has just kind of shifted to the whole management on the new Ying/Yang gauge system; and whether or not it'll make things feel busier, or just as active as it was before.

I mean it's something to definitely consider, because it does look busier then the normal chakra was; which in fairness was just something we kept up and executed with a single button press throughout fights and instantly in-between.

I guess what I'm saying is we shouldn't downplay the new system monk got until we know just how busy it truly makes the job feel, because I'm personally all for changing stuff like this, as long as it's replaced with something that makes the job feel just as busy; as it's the only reason why i love Monk so much.

The job is busy pre-endwalker, and I agree that it would be quite busy if monk kept all six positionals moving forward into Endwalker.

My issue is the lack of communication from SE about this. Were we not told that only Twin Snakes and True Strike would lose positional requirements? What we have as a result is twice the amount of positional loss than originally communicated.

And I get that things could have changed between the media tour and now, but I don't buy the 'we didn't know monk would end up needing this much reduction in positional requirements' when they had a working template at the time of the media tour.

[zcrash970]

I feel like people don't like nuance and/or don't realize not all classes are for them. Every strict rotation type of melee class has died as well. That and they're always accepting less. Don't have to manage movement? Don't like timers? Well let's ignore the classes that are less tight, they just HAVE to change the ones that are. It's a shame. I hope it never fully happens but this game is gonna end up extremely homogenized.

I mean new summoner is the perfect example of why SE can't design engaging jobs anymore.

All of bards procs are now untied with dots.

The travesty that is called Dark Knight.

MCH is stagnant and boring and gets repetitive real fast.
Monk remains to be seen but faith is not high after reading the job guide.

[zcrash970]

To some extent I agree with you, but I still think that they play/ will play very differently.
They all do feel different.

If you want to see what homogenization looks like try ESO.

I mean I don't have to. I can just look at our tanks.

[ssunny2008]

Positionals are BS to begin with. Why should melees get punished when being forced to to attack from a certain direction? And the skills to remove these requirements are a poor bandaid for a "mechanic" no other role has to deal with.

Really stop talking such nonsense. You don´t like them? FINE... then don´t play them. All this bs with "getting punished for"... What if you missclick a skill? What if you stand in an aoe? What if you interupt your casting times? Do even melees have casting times? Why does RDPS classes have no casting times or positionals but 10% less damage? Why...? And and and....

Getting punished for mistakes is part of any game. If this wouldn´t be a thing, why do we even have boss mechanics or rotations? How about 1 buttonsmasher with perma-invul?!
All the mimimi about some unique game aspects and now we´re at a point, where a class... loved by thousands of players ...is getting dumbed down and homogenized once again.

SHAME ON YOU SE and SHAME ON ALL POSITIONAL-HATERS out there! You selfish and greedy .... going to make the game a no-brainer and destroy the last aspects of fun for any serious gamer out there. "I don´t want to be punished when i suck, i want to be uwu´d all day long to feel so great even if i ignore all class aspects and spam 1 button, uwu me please uwuuwuwuwuwu!!!! TY SE <33333 "
I seriously don´t have enough middlefingers to show to Yoshi.

[jerome15]

Anyone else noticed that our base GCD is down to 2s from 2.5? we gonna be even faster

That's with GL4 added in. 2.5 base reducing it 20% from GL4 is 2.0