Why was my thread about healer dps deleted?

[ty_taurus]

It really begs the question: who is the truly selfish player, the one who dictates how others should play for their own desire for speed or the player who is happy to perform their role exclusively? I'd be willing to accept that both can be described as a bit selfish, but even that seems to be too painful a truth for many.

We already know the answer to this.

How is it selfish to expect other players who are in your party make a conscious effort to play the game? It's incredibly disrespectful and rude to intentionally underperform because you want to play a thou-shalt-not-harm RP. If that's you're goal, then start up a premade group of people who will tolerate that kind of behavior, but it's arrogant to expect respect when you are blatantly wasting other people's time to pretend you're playing a different game.

Want to play a frost mage? Go play Diablo III
Want to play a healing paladin? Go play WoW
Want to play a healer that only heals? Go play Everquest

There's a difference between trying and perfection, of course. What real people are asking is that you make a conscious effort to contribute to the fight and not stand there with your hand in your pants waiting for the next raidwide to be used in 45 seconds. In casual content, no one cares if you're not running a perfectly optimized healer, they just want you to not intentionally waste their time, which is exactly what intentionally not DPSing when you otherwise could is doing.

You can't just not play the game and expect players to respect your "choice" for the same reason I can't just not attack at all and constantly jump on the enemy's hit box because I want to roleplay as Mario and expect the same.

[Sebazy]

I daresay the amount of people choosing not to dps because they just don't want to, for whatever reason, is likely so small it's really very dumb to even mention them.

This quote is a keeper

And lol at trying to position yourself as some hero standing against the 'outspoken players' trying to push for even more focus on DPS abilities.

Do you not see us asking for buffs?

Do you not see us asking for debuffs?

Do you not see us asking for more healing requirements?

No you don't. Because it doesn't suit your horrible little agenda.

Stop lying.

Thanks.

Oh and also, the real reason you won't answer Silver's question is because you simply don't know.

[Drkdays]

This right here is why my question on Macrocosmos is important.

If you're referring to cobbling together techniques in a way not native to the game's basic layout, then no, it's not important. You should address that one to SE's customer support or even ideas for lifestyle upgrades, not to me. Expecting players to create macros just to functionly play a class according to your standards is silly.

[ty_taurus]

If you're referring to cobbling together techniques in a way not native to the game basic layout, then no, it's not important. You should address that one to SE's customer support or even ideas for lifestyle upgrades, not to me. Expecting players to create macros just to functionly play a class according to your standards is silly.

They are referring to Astrolgian's new capstone spell named "Macrocosmos"

[Drkdays]

This quote is a keeper

And lol at trying to position yourself as some hero standing against the 'outspoken players' trying to push for even more focus on DPS abilities.

Do you not see us asking for buffs?

Do you not see us asking for debuffs?

Do you not see us asking for more healing requirements?

No you don't. Because it doesn't suit your horrible little agenda.

Stop lying.

Thanks.

Oh and also, the real reason you won't answer Silver's question is because you simply don't know.

You have a terrible temper and should probably avoid the forums for your own mental health. You'll spend the whole day with high blood pressure.

[Drkdays]

They are referring to Astrolgian's new capstone spell named "Macrocosmos"

Then I don't know. I never cared for astro as much as whm.

[ty_taurus]

Then I don't know. I never cared for astro as much as whm.

Macrocosmos
Range: 0 yalms Radius: 20 yalms
Cast time: 1.5 seconds Recast time: 120 seconds
MP Cost: 600

Deals unaspected damage to all nearby enemies with a potency of 250 for the first enemy, and 50% less for all remaining enemies.
Additional Effect: Grants Macrocosmos to self and all nearby party members
Duration: 15 seconds
Action changes to Microcosmos upon execution.
For the effect's duration, 50% of damage taken is compiled.
Restores HP equal to compiled damage when the effect expires or upon execution of Microcosmos.
Amount restored cannot exceed the target's maximum HP.

Silver Strider wanted to know if you viewed this as a DPS spell or a healing spell (Note that 250 Potency is the same potency as the new Malefic spell as of the Media Tour. Numbers are subject to change).

[Drkdays]

Macrocosmos
Range: 0 yalms Radius: 20 yalms
Cast time: 1.5 seconds Recast time: 120 seconds
MP Cost: 600

Deals unaspected damage to all nearby enemies with a potency of 250 for the first enemy, and 50% less for all remaining enemies.
Additional Effect: Grants Macrocosmos to self and all nearby party members
Duration: 15 seconds
Action changes to Microcosmos upon execution.
For the effect's duration, 50% of damage taken is compiled.
Restores HP equal to compiled damage when the effect expires or upon execution of Microcosmos.
Amount restored cannot exceed the target's maximum HP.

Silver Strider wanted to know if you viewed this as a DPS spell or a healing spell (Note that 250 Potency is the same potency as the new Malefic spell as of the Media Tour. Numbers are subject to change).

Same as assize, essentially. I've already noted that for all that many claim healers are "one button dps" this is far from the case. And if a player chooses not to use it, it is a waste, but as so many have pointed out, healers are hardly starved for healing abilities. Personally, I would use it, but this is about whether or not it would be good for less skilled players (and not the "just don't want to" players.)

I note the key appeal of this spell is that it does not require targeting, merely a click within proximity, and that would appeal to players who struggle with stress or infirmity.

In short, I'd call it a healing spell, at least in the eyes of those who look first towards healing. Sorry for the confusion about the nature of the spell. I'm not good with spell names.

[Silver-Strider]

Same as assize, essentially. I've already noted that for all that many claim healers are "one button dps" this is far from the case. And if a player chooses not to use it, it is a waste, but as so many have pointed out, healers are hardly starved for healing abilities. Personally, I would use it, but this is about whether or not it would be good for less skilled players (and not the "just don't want to" players)

I note the key appeal of this spell is that it does not require targeting, merely a click within proximity, and that would appeal to players who struggle with stress or infirmity.

In short, I'd call it a healing spell. Sorry for the confusion about the nature of the spell. I'm not good with spell names.

The difference is that Assize is an oGCD ability and Macrocosmos is on the GCD.
The chief complaint from healers is that we spend 70%+ of our time using our GCD to DPS, so why can't we have GCD skills like Macrocosmos that we can sprinkle in occasionally so that we don't have that problem?

[Drkdays]

The difference is that Assize is an oGCD ability and Macrocosmos is on the GCD.
The chief complaint from healers is that we spend 70%+ of our time using our GCD to DPS, so why can't we have GCD skills like Macrocosmos that we can sprinkle in occasionally so that we don't have that problem?

Why not indeed, though with a 2 minute cool down that's some very spaced out sprinkles.

Again, no problem with dps, and if SE felt the need for an ability that bears a strong resemblance to other already existing abilities, that's common with all classes and doesn't warrant much thought. Same as every tank getting a gap closer and other such equalizing additions.

It's calls for whole new concepts that fortify the emphasis of dps above healing that burns my bean, such as healer dps rotations.