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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonGunner View Post
    and last thing i will say, you have healers that advocate that content will hit harder to make up for the lack of healing but the LL pretty much confirmed it wont happen out of concern of making healer accessible so that won't become an option and if it were to become one it won't be in the near future as well.
    That's good they shouldn't (except swap leveling and expert dungeon difficulty because that is weird that levelling is so much harder). Before, I also thought, it would be more fun if there was more damage to heal but after doing o12s min ilvl and having to heal hello world which is really stressful and unfun now I know it is better if the damage is easy and relaxing to heal.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Whilst I can't say I agreed with it, I'm rather surprised it got deleted TBH.



    If you think that's the issue here then you might need to brush up on your English as something's apparently getting lost in translation.

    The issue is that you seemed to think that the experiences of an extreme edge case player that barely seems to exist somehow was worth more than mainstream and up players.

    No compromise, no middle ground, no common sense. Let's just make everyone play like an 80 year old trying to type an email.

    The surprised pikachu face was bonus content.
    Anyway I really wanted to reply to you and another person who made a long thoughtful response in that thread but I just didn't want to say anything anymore after all the negative comments and now I can't and I really regret that. But I want to at least say your dot idea was really smart. I think it would be weird because it would have to be 150p from glare to have a big enough effect. Theres nothing wrong with that in theory and I have nothing against it I just think sqex wouldn't do that big of a dot but then again they would never do my suggestion to remove glare either so
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  2. #12
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    Mike Arklight
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    if healing is that stressful for you in savage, then don't be a healer, go dps or tank then.
    don't try to change a job or more precisely a role just cause in savage you find it stressful while others don't.
    you have regular dungeons that barely require healing, and you had up to level 80 even to get used to doing both healing and support and you still find it with all the healing abilities and tools unlocked stressful then i seriously think healing is not for you and you should quit it. for your own good.

    savage is not unlocked to people who are stressed from healing, they can go there as other roles instead of a healer, try it then instead.
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  3. #13
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    C'erise Vanesse
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonGunner View Post
    if healing is that stressful for you in savage, then don't be a healer, go dps or tank then.
    don't try to change a job or more precisely a role just cause in savage you find it stressful while others don't.
    you have regular dungeons that barely require healing, and you had up to level 80 even to get used to doing both healing and support and you still find it with all the healing abilities and tools unlocked stressful then i seriously think healing is not for you and you should quit it. for your own good.

    savage is not unlocked to people who are stressed from healing, they can go there as other roles instead of a healer, try it then instead.
    regular dungeons are so braindead healing-wise that i cast a total of 3 heals an entire dungeon run once. about 15 esunas, sure, but even then. 18 healing/healing adjacent spells, and the rest was me spamming my aoe. to ask for the removal of the extreme barebones dps kit to make yourself feel better is to ask for someone to press a button 18 times over the course of a 15 minute dungeon run.
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
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    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

  4. #14
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    I was just responding to your comment about making healing harder and that was my experience with a healing requirement that was higher than what we normally have im other savage and i think if everything was like that it wouldn't be as fun.
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    Xynnel Valeroyant
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    Quote Originally Posted by lisaa View Post
    I was just responding to your comment about making healing harder and that was my experience with a healing requirement that was higher than what we normally have im other savage and i think if everything was like that it wouldn't be as fun.
    No one is asking for story dungeons to have the requirements of savage (which doesn't have that many of healing specific requirements anyway but that's another thread). We're asking for endgame content to take advantage of the endgame kit we have.

    I find it quite insane that Mt. Gulg a lv79 dungeon and Amarout a lv80 MSQ dungeon to finish off Shb hit harder than Pagalthan, the latest 80. Pagalthan should hit as hard as they do.

    I'm not in BiS. Don't even have a single piece of savage gear on my healer and day 1 Pagal was a snoozefest.
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    I'm tired of being told to wait for post-patches and expansions for fixes and increased healing requirements that are never coming. Healers are not fun in all forms of content like all jobs should be, they're replaced by tanks and dps due to low healing requirements and their dps kit is small for 0 reason, when in the past we had more options and handled things just fine. I refuse to play healer in roulette come DT. I refuse to heal EXs, I refuse to go into Savage, and I am boycotting Ultimate.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    Hope Sunflame
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    Okay 99 damage parse as healer person.
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    What you need to realize is that you're just repeating yourself to the same crowd constantly, who leap on arguments against enforcing dps healers with all literary discipline of middle schoolers playing Call of Duty.

    Best to just make a clear and unemotional stance against the necessity of making healers more dps oriented than healing and move on with the understanding that a majority of the comments will be as punitive as they are irrelevant.

    You believe what you believe and you are not alone, whatever others try to convince you of.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    What you need to realize is that you're just repeating yourself to the same crowd constantly, who leap on arguments against enforcing dps healers with all literary discipline of middle schoolers playing Call of Duty.

    Best to just make a clear and unemotional stance against the necessity of making healers more dps oriented than healing and move on with the understanding that a majority of the comments will be as punitive as they are irrelevant.

    You believe what you believe and you are not alone, whatever others try to convince you of.
    Yes yes, Sylphies are the real intellectuals. Everyone else is just too overawed by the 1000 IQ takes. Don't listen to rebuttals; all dissent from Sylphiedom is such foolishness it can be dismissed out of hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    Yes yes, Sylphies are the real intellectuals. Everyone else is just too overawed by the 1000 IQ takes. Don't listen to rebuttals; all dissent from Sylphiedom is such foolishness it can be dismissed out of hand.
    Case in point : I would never be so arrogant as to say that "sylphies" are right, only that that are not necessarily wrong.

    The problem are those who can't tell the difference between the two and leap straight to defense mode.

    Thanks for the demonstration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    What you need to realize is that you're just repeating yourself to the same crowd constantly, who leap on arguments against enforcing dps healers with all literary discipline of middle schoolers playing Call of Duty.

    Best to just make a clear and unemotional stance against the necessity of making healers more dps oriented than healing and move on with the understanding that a majority of the comments will be as punitive as they are irrelevant.

    You believe what you believe and you are not alone, whatever others try to convince you of.
    Tell me, do you count Macrocosmos as a Heal or a DPS skill?
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