Fran and Mjrn's hairstyles please?

[aveyond-dreams]

That's not a valid point to make at all. You're literally bringing in physics to an argument about lore/a specific race's style. And glasses are a thing that belongs to everyone and not a specific race so I'm really not sure what you're trying to say.

And so is hair. Thank you.

[JadedPurity]

except it is her hair, the only difference is it doesnt have the faceguard and it doesnt come down to her tush everything else about it is exactly the same

then its still NOT her hair. lol

[TheMightyMollusk]

That's not a valid point to make at all. You're literally bringing in physics to an argument about lore/a specific race's style. And glasses are a thing that belongs to everyone and not a specific race so I'm really not sure what you're trying to say.

Lore went out the window as a valid argument when they made male Miqo'te playable back in 2.0, and it's getting another kick in 6.0 with male Viera.

[SherlottaEryut]

Lore went out the window as a valid argument when they made male Miqo'te playable back in 2.0, and it's getting another kick in 6.0 with male Viera.

I have said this numerous times on other forums, Miqo'te do not have a significance in the FF franchise so there's no comparison to Viera who have 10+ years of lore as well as numerous game appearances. People argue that Miqo'te are essentially the Mithra from XI but there's obviously no definitive confirmation that they're linked other than the fact they're cat people. So no - Miqo'te only existed in XIV thus aren't *that* lore-developed that people care if it changes.

Male Viera, understandably were previously never seen in the Ivalician era but it makes sense considering Endwalker has a dire storyline, it makes sense that the male Viera come out of hiding to lend their aid.

[TheMightyMollusk]

So your argument is that lore from other games is more important than lore in this game, while we're taking about this game? Okay then.

[SherlottaEryut]

So your argument is that lore from other games is more important than lore in this game, while we're taking about this game? Okay then.

That’s obviously not what I’m saying if I literally just justified why the male Viera came out of hiding due to the ‘end of the world’ storyline? I’m really struggling to comprehend why you’re trying to twist my words.

[Iscah]

That’s obviously not what I’m saying if I literally just justified why the male Viera came out of hiding due to the ‘end of the world’ storyline?

Male Viera aren't coming out of the woodwork "just now", they are retroactively being added to exist – at least by the player's presence – in the game since ARR. Unless they bring that up within the game to explain why we're seeing them for the first time, it's not a reason to say that Endwalker justifies their presence.

For all we know, they could just be extremely rare (and still will be extremely rare if we only meet one or two as NPCs) or maybe the few that do leave the woods are mistaken for women anyway.

[SherlottaEryut]

Male Viera aren't coming out of the woodwork "just now", they are retroactively being added to exist – at least by the player's presence – in the game since ARR. Unless they bring that up within the game to explain why we're seeing them for the first time, it's not a reason to say that Endwalker justifies their presence.

I see your point of view definitely, but I don't think characters are just "brought in" as if they've always been there since the start, hence why in the Ivalician raid series when we meet Fran in Garamsythe waterway she speaks to us as if we're not even the same race - also Montblanc gives us a whole dialogue on what the Viera are and their way of life despite me standing there with my viera sandles and rabbit ears; it's a tad discombobulating.

[MercuryD]

Male Viera, understandably were previously never seen in the Ivalician era but it makes sense considering Endwalker has a dire storyline, it makes sense that the male Viera come out of hiding to lend their aid.

I'm going to nitpick this since I keep seeing everyone justify (which doesn't NEED justification) male viera being playable with this. This isn't a reason nor will it ever be. Since you can start as the race in 2.0 content the world going to hell in Endwalker is irrelevant.

Back to the topic, I'm okay with them adding more racial hairs to any race and viera could definitely use some more and i hope that can happen during the 6.X cycle since the devs seem to have figured out how to better design viera models.

[Avidria]

I am not sure why Viera players should get more racial hairstyles on top of the ones they already have. They will be getting a decent chunk of more widely used hairstyles by the playerbase soon and are likely to continue receiving the latest hairstyle along with everyone else moving forward. I would not mind either of these hairstyles being added for everyone but locking things to a single race/gender generally just sucks.

Normally I'd agree but there are literally more than 50 hairstyles that Viera do not currently have access to at all. Unless SE is planning to fully bridge that gap, I'm thinking they can squeeze a few more race specific styles in there.

Especially considering their current selection is literally seven "unique" styles with slight variations on all of them.

Edit to rephrase a little - my Miqo that I haven't touched since Stormblood has 56 hairstyles at the aesthetician, 5 of which are unlocks... so if I'm looking at the list right, there are 15 unlocks I don't have, not counting any cash shop hairs. So roughly in the range of 60-70 options for other races, at a guess, vs Viera's 17 (and Hrothgar's what... two? lmao??). I mean I wanna hope they're gonna eventually bring Viera and Hrothgar both at least up to the range of options of the other races, but it's taken them two years to figure out how to add even a handful. I will be very pleasantly surprised if we get more than that.

All that to say, yeah, I don't mind them maybe getting some more race unique ones if it means they get even close to the same amount of customization options the older races have.