Change Suggestion for All Tank Jobs (DPS Stance)

[Razkine_Blazehawk]

Hello,

First of all, have i not been playing any of the tank jobs, so i do not know what they can or not can etc...

With this out of the way do i have a suggestion for all tank jobs in Final Fantasy XIV to incentivize new players to choose one, and remove some of the anxiety many may have

Adding DPS Stance (15% more dmg)

Making it possible for all tank jobs to be converted to a dps, simply by turning the stance on (queue as dps in duty finder). When the player is ready to tank, he or her/she just turn on tank stance

As dps, do you not need damage mitigation attacks (spells) so they could be unavailable when in dps stance, and replaced with new ones focused on damage dealing


This is a suggestion to FFXIV DEVS. Dont be mad at me for suggesting it, as its made for people that want to tank, but need some time with the tanking job, before they actually begin to tank

[DrWho2010]

have you been playing this game long? they used to have tank stances but got rid of them.

[Razkine_Blazehawk]

have you been playing this game long? they used to have tank stances but got rid of them.

i started playing this game a ½ year ago

[RocciaSolida]

If there is one thing I'm sure is never gonna happen in this game is the ability of switching roles using stances.
SE even removed the DPS stance (which didn't let you draw additional aggro but removed the damage penalty from the tank stance) from the tanks in Shadowbringers.
Never ever

[Risvertasashi]

There used to be a DPS stance. It was removed because tanks would always use it, because increased DPS is a measurable contribution while making things less hard on the healer was not. Of course, with overgeared tanks it was easy enough, but many tanks lacked any sense of nuance and would stubbornly stay in the DPS stance even when having bad gear, vuln stacks, and so on.

But even as an idea to change role queuing it doesn't really work. Tanks queued as DPS, if they actually did as much DPS as the red role, would be broken because they have way more survivability so they'd just be better. Conversely, if it's weak enough they're still basically tanks, well, you slow down people's runs for no real reason.

Further, you can actually do this in bozja, but many people are reluctant to step out of their job's established roles, and others may get salty at pure-DPS tanks and healers, even though DPS (and healers) can tank stance in there.

The job system already lets people switch between tanks/heals/dps instantly and on a whim. I think it should remain that way, rather than trying to shoehorn in complicated workarounds. And bozja, while an interesting experiment and fun way to change things up, I don't think that system would work well in the mainstream.

[ItMe]

Making it possible for all tank jobs to be converted to a dps, simply by turning the stance on (queue as dps in duty finder). When the player is ready to tank, he or her/she just turn on tank stance

IIRC their stance on this is something akin to
"Instead of making 2 versions of a job to fit two different roles, we'd rather just make two different jobs."
Considering how much they dislike their own SMN. ScH split, I don't think we'll ever see tanks be able to queue as DPS by turning on "DPS mode."

This is a suggestion to FFXIV DEVS. Dont be mad at me for suggesting it, as its made for people that want to tank, but need some time with the tanking job, before they actually begin to tank

But... queueing as a DPS... how would that help them get more comfortable with tanking?
You even said a DPS mode like this would even remove their mitigation tools, so... like... what would this give you a chance to practice? Pushing 1-2-3 as DRK? I'm not sure that's the kind of valuable experience one would need to overcome "tankxiety." Just queueing for Sastasha and Haukke Manor give you a chance to practice with a few basic tools in a low pressure environment and way more practical tanking experience than queueing as a tank with all their tanking buttons removed ever could.

[aveyond-dreams]

If a dps stance for tanks is added it will become the meta to use that instead of their actual tank stance. As was the case prior to Shadowbringers.