Season 2 Storyline (another 10 years) [discussion]

[YianKutku]

The only possibility I could see for us going to another shard is if we go to the 13th, but even then that's a plotline that feels years off. Maybe even more of an "exploratory missions" deal.

Technically we already checked out the 13th in World Of Darkness, so there's already a tileset available. It might be tricky to carry out a side mission questline that requires two Extremes to be done first, though (Bismarck EX and Ravana EX, before Unukalhai is free of obligations).

The only pressing mysteries I can think of are -

What the hell was under Silvertear Lake?

and

Where the hell did Nidhogg go and what did he do between the end of 3.0 and the very end of 3.2?

Other than that... trying to guess what a question will be is nigh-on impossible and not the sort of thing I enjoy.

Another question that's been brought up and has never been answered satisfactorily is what Ramuh actually is. Koji Fox has mentioned in interviews that Ramuh giving us our crystal without needing to fight us in ARR MSQ is somehow significant and important, and that Ramuh is "different" from the other ARR Primals.

I admit this might not actually be a "pressing" question, but I was considering it in the context of how there are rumours among players that Ramuh might be a Sylph interpretation of Rhalgr, and given the Myths Of The Twelve Alliance raid series in 6.x...

[Yuella]

I think the "You'll go that far?" thing will be a time jump. Endwalker might end with us, the Warrior of Light, sacrificing ourselves to save the world. Our friends will labor to bring us back and when they finally succeeded, it will be 5 years into the future.

[ElysiumDragon]

I think a time skip is the likeliest ending, and I've seen a few people suggest an ending scene that involves something akin to the ending of 1.0, where people remember your name and deeds, but forget who you 'are', so to speak.

[Alleluia]

I think the "You'll go that far?" thing will be a time jump. Endwalker might end with us, the Warrior of Light, sacrificing ourselves to save the world. Our friends will labor to bring us back and when they finally succeeded, it will be 5 years into the future.

Bonus points if its like a certain Slayer and we were "happy" in the afterlife. I mean they've gone to the effort of creating lore behind several heavens and hells. And we have that Twelve related raid thing teased...

[EdwinLi]

I think a time skip is the likeliest ending, and I've seen a few people suggest an ending scene that involves something akin to the ending of 1.0, where people remember your name and deeds, but forget who you 'are', so to speak.

That is my best guess how Season 1 may end in 6.0 since it will also provide Season 2 with a semi-clean slate for the new Season 2 storyline in 6.1. The WoL ends up sacrificing himself/herself so that the Final Days can be prevented and create a new world free from the influence of Zodiark and Hydaelyn with Hydaelyn agreeing this is the only way of course since at this point she my see that the world no longer need her influence and by removing herself from the equation, she also removes any risk of Zodiark returning as well.

Yes everything still happens but no one may remember what happened and who WoL is. Thus a semi-clean slate so they can have Season 2 focus a bit on introducing a new group of allies for the WoL and providing a story about how WoL deals with no one remembering him/her anymore during 6.1 to 6.55 while maybe eventually reintroducing the Scions slowly since each Scion may have moved on to deal with their own personal issues with the whole Ascion and Zodiark issues over. Not to mention the Season 1 plot makes it very clear the major factor of why WoL gets dragged into all these political conflicts and etc is due to how famous he/she is so almost everyone and anyone wants WoL to get involved in world changing events. The other being WoL's duty as the Defender of the Star. With the slate semi-cleaned, WoL is now considered a normal adventurer again and less likely to be dragged into political conflicts until Season 2 is given enough time to builds up the new Season 2 antagonists and WoL establish a new fame that makes people start to consider dragging WoL into political conflicts.

This will also give a opportunity for Yoshi-p and the development team to create possible emotional reunions with the Scions during Season 2 storyline since they may not remember as well until a certain point in the Season 2 storyline or maybe never remember but a part of them will always feel a sense of bond with the WoL.

[filkry]

The thing I keep coming back to is how to reconcile 7.X being a radical departure (per YoshiP's comment) and the new storyline starting in 6.1. It feels like it would be incredibly hard for them to do justice to a playerbase-shocking change in only a major patch. The comment makes me think all new PCs, time skip, etc, but a slow buildup in 6.1 makes me think that we'll just be going somewhere unexpected with the same cast of characters.

Personally, if I had my wish, 7.0 would be a story completely separate from what we've seen so far (either just a different character in the same world, or something more dramatic). How to reconcile this with our existing characters and relationships is a big problem, but I think it's the most interesting approach. By far the thing I most want to avoid is the eventually integration of the 2.0 -> 6.0 storyline into some larger, grander narrative, as Kingdom Hearts and lately World of Warcraft have often failed to do. The saga of light and darkness as we have it is grand enough, and should never be subsumed into something larger.

[EdwinLi]

The thing I keep coming back to is how to reconcile 7.X being a radical departure (per YoshiP's comment) and the new storyline starting in 6.1. It feels like it would be incredibly hard for them to do justice to a playerbase-shocking change in only a major patch. The comment makes me think all new PCs, time skip, etc, but a slow buildup in 6.1 makes me think that we'll just be going somewhere unexpected with the same cast of characters.

Personally, if I had my wish, 7.0 would be a story completely separate from what we've seen so far (either just a different character in the same world, or something more dramatic). How to reconcile this with our existing characters and relationships is a big problem, but I think it's the most interesting approach. By far the thing I most want to avoid is the eventually integration of the 2.0 -> 6.0 storyline into some larger, grander narrative, as Kingdom Hearts and lately World of Warcraft have often failed to do. The saga of light and darkness as we have it is grand enough, and should never be subsumed into something larger.

If i remember right, Yoshi-P did say he wanted Season 2 storyline to be unrelated to the whole Zodiark versus Hydaelyn conflict the entire Season 1 storyline focused on believing the Zodiark vs Hydaelyn conflict should truely end in 6.0 as this has been the moment they worked on for so long to finally reach.

With this in mind, Season 2 most likely is not going to continue Season 1 storyline but act more like FF14-2 storyline where WoL face a new antagonist (or antagonists) that brings in a new threat to the world. There maybe mention of Season 1 stuff and maybe have certain parts of Season 2 events related to something Season 1 but the whole Zodiark, Ascians, and Hydaelyn conflict should be over.

How Yoshi-P and the development team can set this up are mostly guesses now but this is why I think Season 1 ending maybe a semi-clean slate event where WoL sacrifice himself/herself resulting in everyone forgetting about WoL. It will set WoL in a clean slate position while still recognizing that Season 1 still happened but people lack of remember WoL will not make them desire to drag him/her into their country's politics and he/she is treated as a normal adventurer. Thus the beginning of Season 2 storyline through 6.1 to 7.0 can focus on WoL starting back in his/her roots and slowly building up into once again saving the world from the new antagonist.

Along with some potentially interesting story once they reach that point since with people no longer remembering WoL, they can go over how easy the WoL had the ability to gain access to thing simply because of the stories being told about his/her actions as WoL compared to now when WoL is just another adventurer. With the fame all gone and reduced to a normal adventurer again, WoL may have to get a bit more creative to get people to listen or the story may provide a emotional reunion with certain characters (despite them not remember WoL) to help WoL get people to listen to him/her about the threat the new antagonists will bring.

[_Pigzig]

idea: the worlds combine and we visit them all as other continents
theres another 10 years or more

[Ultimatecalibur]

How Yoshi-P and the development team can set this up are mostly guesses now but this is why I think Season 1 ending maybe a semi-clean slate event where WoL sacrifice himself/herself resulting in everyone forgetting about WoL. It will set WoL in a clean slate position while still recognizing that Season 1 still happened but people lack of remember WoL will not make them desire to drag him/her into their country's politics and he/she is treated as a normal adventurer. Thus the beginning of Season 2 storyline through 6.1 to 7.0 can focus on WoL starting back in his/her roots and slowly building up into once again saving the world from the new antagonist.

I highly doubt that. That completely sounds like someone trying to justify a "Season 1" story skip system and/or RPer desire for their character not to be the WoL. It also pretty much cuts off all side story plot setup that has already occurred due to our characters already being the WoL. That is not setting up a Season 2, it is setup up a sequel with a completely different main character.

[Listrella]

well in they way I look at this, is is more season 6-10 than season 2 but regardless. There's really little way of knowing it could easily be something that hasn't even been mentioned yet. They're kind of making it clear this is an entirely new story just set in the same world. Whatever it is I'm really excited to find out.