Dungeons are becoming style over substance.

[Nethereal]

Yoshida has made it very clear his intention to streamline dungeons and his view of how he wants the game to be: all inclusive.

He doesn't want to make difficult 4 player content because of the amount of responsibility that would be put on each individual player which would make them too difficulty for the average player base.

This is just one of the prices we pay.

Who knows though this topic is constantly being brought up to yoshi maybe he'll rethink his decision.

the dungs is no different that like WOW or ESO.

Can't speak for WoW but ESO dungeons have a very real threat of dying even on the easiest of dungeons, including the first one if players aren't competent to some degree.
This trend ramps up further as you go into dungeons taking increased damage for your spec choice in your character and a monster having your weakness or simply not properly allocating points in your skill tree.
The only thing dungeons in ffxiv are remotely similar to when it comes to ESO dungeons is that they're instanced, there are mobs, there are bosses. Some of the casual ESO dungeons are Extreme level difficulty for ffxiv.

[Shurrikhan]

Can't speak for WoW but ESO dungeons have a very real threat of dying even on the easiest of dungeons, including the first one if players aren't competent to some degree.

WoW's set-difficulty dungeons (Normal, Heroic) function similarly to XIV's except in that trash has (increasingly ignorable) mechanics (minus the potential one-shots from being knocked off platforms, etc.) largely just because there's no ilvl cap.

They're roflstomp speedruns once roflstomp overgeared, and none too difficult even at minimum item level. They do at least have 2-5 mechanics per trash mob, though, instead of... at most a special that one can hardly tell apart from the autos and maybe a couple marked "AoE will go here" attacks, so even the mild difficulty sometimes allows for more engagement. There's actual reason to deliberately stun/silence (rather than as just a consequence of Holy spam), displace, focus target, bait, etc.

The real difference is just that WoW dungeons have damn near infinite difficulty levels, so you can play to the degree of difficulty you want even as you gear up.

The dreaded "RaiderIO" (which hasn't been a thing, at least in the sense of some external tool "judging" players, for a while now) was literally just one's total relevant achievement score across the expansion's dungeons; people tended not to invite people to dungeons more than 2 levels above your current clear for that dungeon or your average, for much the same reason one might in XIV ask if one has done any Savage before inviting someone to the first Savage raid in a given tier.

the issue in WoW M+ isnt the raider io is the "spec-ism", is just A tank B/C healers X/Y/Z dps , if u arent those GL getting an invite ....

I played almost solely non-meta specs and would inform the party leader of my spec when applying. I still got invited just fine. Prot Warrior at its worst, Arms, Enhance, Demonology, Survival, Feral, Subtlety, Arcane, Holy Priest, etc., etc. -- they all could get invites up to the reward cap (+15) with little issue.