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  1. #11
    Player
    Floortank's Avatar
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    Kaska Onerys
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Weird. I've never seen World of Darkness get abandoned, ever.

    I've only ever seen a 24 man abandoned two times in all the years I've been playing.
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  2. #12
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    Mirhd's Avatar
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    Ellisuur Muur
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    23 times, 2 completions? Sounds like hyperbole... sorry, but I'm not buying it. Even with the influx of newer players raids aren't nearly that bad, and even if they were, they would be better than the absolute snore fest alliance roulette usually is. The penalty is fine. If you don't want to participate, simply eat said penalty and do something else for 30 minutes. Gather, craft, start watching a tv show you've been meaning to get into, w/e. It's really not that big of a deal.
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    Last edited by Mirhd; 11-14-2021 at 11:21 AM. Reason: formating

  3. #13
    Player RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Kugane (No that red crayon is totally legitimate) >.>
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    I've never seen a 24 player raid fail and I've been around this game since beta 1.0. I'd suspect the OP is the cause of their own issue. 1-2 wipes does not equal duty failure. It just means you aren't clearing it at the rate of a speedrun.
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  4. #14
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    Van Arn
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    Goblin
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    Samurai Lv 90
    The way you remove the cooldown for withdrawing from an instance is to vote abandon.
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  5. #15
    Player lezard21's Avatar
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    Arngrim Hallbjorn
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sililos View Post
    In Cerberus, they never do the chains and wipe us.
    Are you RPing as a character with no hands? Because you do can grab a chain even if you are not in Alliance C.
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  6. #16
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    Oraina Fhey
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    Coeurl
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I can agree the first boss can be tricky if there's several people unfamiliar, especially since it's a fight that once it start to go south it implodes fast. On that end I say no to removing punishments for leaving. And I'm not a huge fan of that raid; but I will complete it since that's what I was given. I've only ever seen a vote quit go through once because we had people do literally nothing but die instantly and refuse rezzes because they want to be carried.

    I see it as the potential chambered round in the daily Russian roulette.
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  7. #17
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    Avidria's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Avi Taro
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    That sounds like some spectacularly bad luck O.o I mean I've had a few really terrible runs (one where the dps was SO BAD that we saw the shadow worms on Cloud of Darkness - a mechanic I previously Did Not Know Existed), but I think I've only seen one group just straight up fall apart entirely like. Ever.

    Unless you're saying you only have 2/23 completions because you're just bailing on the groups, in which case, I mean... OK? Leaving is your prerogative, but removing the penalty for bailing, especially for WoD of all things, doesn't really give any benefits that I see offsetting giving up the entire purpose of having the penalty in the first place.
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    Last edited by Avidria; 11-14-2021 at 11:40 AM.
    "Run when you have to, fight when you must, rest when you can." - Elyas Machera, The Wheel of Time

  8. #18
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    Bacent's Avatar
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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Famfrit
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    Are you RPing as a character with no hands? Because you do can grab a chain even if you are not in Alliance C.
    I dunno. They seem a bit chaingry with other people.
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    Please show support for chocobo boots to be added -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/323512-Suggestion-for-an-item-to-be-added-to-gold-saucer-Chocobo-Boots

    Unhappy with how they implemented Mahjong? -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/381358-Mahjong-is-the-most-depressing-mini-game-you-ve-added-to-XIV

  9. #19
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    SherlottaEryut's Avatar
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    Katja Eruyt
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bacent View Post
    I dunno. They seem a bit chaingry with other people.
    Behave yourself
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  10. #20
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    Mother Kos
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    Hyperion
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    Reaper Lv 90
    World of Darkness is either super smooth, or you meet a bump on the first boss. I can count on one hand the amount of times I haven't been able to clear in all the years since it has come out. The worst was when I came in-progress. 14 minutes left on the timer and stuck on the first boss. It was only so bad because people kept leaving. So, no. The penalty stays. Take your lumps. Wiping for three pulls in WoD is still faster than doing a SB/ShB alliance raid, so I am not sure what the problem is.
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