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  1. #81
    Player RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It didn't pop up in HW, it popped up back in ARR within a week or two of WoD's release. It was the easiest method to getting people to organize so the place wasn't such an utter crapshoot...which still didn't stop the fools trying to push DPS instead of putting the chain back on Cerberus (which 90% of the time led to a wipe), but it at least made the fight a bit more bearable.
    Part of the strat on that was to procrastinate and not attach the second chain until right before the recovery bar was going to fill so everyone could just dps on it while it just stayed still and did nothing.
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  2. #82
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It didn't pop up in HW, it popped up back in ARR within a week or two of WoD's release. It was the easiest method to getting people to organize so the place wasn't such an utter crapshoot...which still didn't stop the fools trying to push DPS instead of putting the chain back on Cerberus (which 90% of the time led to a wipe), but it at least made the fight a bit more bearable.
    I did that raid when it came out every week, sometimes multiple times, and I never saw the ABC method pop up until early heavensward.
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  3. #83
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    Bearded's Avatar
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    Hiro Masaaki
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    Phantom
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    Archer Lv 36
    You must be really unfortunate to have to have abandoned this - each time I have run it (with many new people) they paid attention and yes we may have wiped a few times but that is to be expected for totally new people. Never did I consider abandoning it as that is just defeatist.
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  4. #84
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    Ronduwil's Avatar
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    Ronduwil Thaliakson
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    Goblin
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sililos View Post
    3 wipes in 5 minutes on first boss because even after being told what to do, nobody was doing it.
    I see 1 in 10 WoD runs that actually reach the final boss AND down it.
    Maybe it's just you, or you're not explaining it right.

    I was spamming World of Darkness a few weeks ago as part of grinding my ARR relic to Zeta, and even though there were a handful of wipes, every single run completed eventually with no exception. I suspect that your lack of patience and refusal to see a run to completion are to blame for your predicament. I don't even remember wiping on the same boss twice except for one instance in which there was a troll who kept deliberately pulling before everyone was in the room and the fight could be explained. That troll was kicked from the group (the one and only time I've seen a vote to dismiss succeed in this game), and once he was gone, the boss was a one-shot deal.

    The purpose of the timer is to make it more painful for people like you to abandon a group as opposed to just being patient and sticking it out. It seems to be working as intended.
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  5. #85
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    Bsrking5's Avatar
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    Alpha Lupi
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    Adamantoise
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Part of the strat on that was to procrastinate and not attach the second chain until right before the recovery bar was going to fill so everyone could just dps on it while it just stayed still and did nothing.
    You can still do this. It makes it possible to kill him before he breaks his chains a second time. It actually does make the fight a bit easier.
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  6. #86
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    Krotoan's Avatar
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    You can still do this. It makes it possible to kill him before he breaks his chains a second time. It actually does make the fight a bit easier.
    The problem with this one is people mess it up and just grab the chain and stand there, which eventually drops the chain and now you have no chain and his "weak" period ends and he starts one shotting the alliance.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  7. #87
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    DragoAskani's Avatar
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    Amy Rosenbaum
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    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    Yeah, no I don't think so.
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  8. #88
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    Mika_Zahard's Avatar
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    Mika Zahard
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    This seems highly implausible. I've run it daily for probably every third Alliance Roulette the last... damn... half-year? I've seen 2 wipes. I've never seen an outright failed run. That's out of over 50 runs. Most were done in under 25 minutes. It's quite nearly as easy as LotA or the Tower.
    You missed out the most important factor: HIS DC. You're running WoD in Aether DC, while he's on primal. Us in Aether have better clear rates than them, and i also dread WoD because people will by no means not stand on the plattforms when doom is up if they dont have the debuff, just to get others killed.
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  9. #89
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I did that raid when it came out every week, sometimes multiple times, and I never saw the ABC method pop up until early heavensward.
    It was the main method I saw done on Primal back then.
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  10. #90
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    Wolwosh's Avatar
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    Ulorin Ardor
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    I generally go in expecting 1-2 wipes to Angra Manyu due to people not knowing or ignoring the mechanics. Past that I can't remember more than a wipe to Cerberus in months.
    2 wipes? O_o for WoD?
    2 wipes there and i'm out.
    People are seriously not trying if that happens..
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