Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

[Duskane]

I'm the type of person who wants to play a good looking male AND female character.

Why don't you then.

[SturmChurro]

Why don't you then.

Fortunately, I am. I have very good taste, and I am bringing my good taste - and opinions - to this thread, on what I think would be best for femhroth. However, I wasn't aware personal attacks were allowed, nor was I aware this had anything to do with female hrothgar. I'm sure you'll get a decent amount of likes, unfortunately this isn't reddit.

[Nestama]

I mean, if you already have the options for multiple good looking male/female races in FFXIV already, I don't see the problem in letting a niche playerbase get something as well (already got half of it with Hrothgar so far). The males are already bestial in appearance (especially with their faces), so logically SE has to do the same for the female Hrothgars (bestial face)? If female Hrothgar come out and their face is more human than the males, then I'll be disappointed.

With the current face options the males have, I can see the females have similar options as well: Lion, Tiger(?), Coeurl and Ronso. If SE do not fix the hairstyles for Hrothgar, chances are the lion face could be locked with a bald and not bald hairstyle option.

[xxmiamorecadenza]

I mean, if you already have the options for multiple good looking male/female races in FFXIV already, I don't see the problem in letting a niche playerbase get something as well (already got half of it with Hrothgar so far). The males are already bestial in appearance (especially with their faces), so logically SE has to do the same for the female Hrothgars (bestial face)?

I think they want all the options. Not just a majority of them.

And I’m over here just desperate for more than one. Which would accumulate to Lala or Hroth.

[SherlottaEryut]

I mean, if you already have the options for multiple good looking male/female races in FFXIV already, I don't see the problem in letting a niche playerbase get something as well (already got half of it with Hrothgar so far). The males are already bestial in appearance (especially with their faces), so logically SE has to do the same for the female Hrothgars (bestial face)? If female Hrothgar come out and their face is more human than the males, then I'll be disappointed.

Yeah, I agree with this. There’s been enough good looking races in the game. It’s time for SE to bring in at least one beast-like female character.. and not just a Miqo’te but with minor differences.

I wish they just made the Viera retain their XII beast-like appearance to be honest.

[LisSquid]

I think they want all the options. Not just a majority of them.

That's really what it comes down to. "I don't like it so everyone doesn't like it!" Ignoring the fact that the very nature of Hrothgar was niche for the niche to round our a roster Yoshi P said was lacking. It's normal and good if there are choices that you don't like. That means there are a variety of choices to make for different people.

[Nestama]

I wish they just made the Viera retain their XII beast-like appearance to be honest.

Honestly same, but then they probably wouldn't be able to wear gloves and boots (since they have crazy claw hands and rabbit feet) and people are still disappointed by the lack of hats they can wear

[reivaxe]

I think it's less about some twitter agenda

I said nothing about a "twitter agenda", I'm referring to the meme that originated there that many people use.
Anyway, these posts are very much on the money. vvv

I am not interested in playing as a hunchback woman, in this or any game. I have an alt that I *could* potentially fantasia to female Hrothgar if they actually look decent. But if they're some weird amalgamation of hunchbackness, super huge muscles, and mangled faces? That's a hard pass from me, and pretty much 95% of the playerbase that plays female characters.

There is nothing substantial to gain from catering to "diversity" if the so called "diversity" in question is so niche it turns off the overwhelming majority of people. I still think that the concept art of the Queen from the recent artbook looks good enough for me to drop the cash on. Doubtless a decent chunk of other people agree, but instead of naturally wanting a female model that is well-designed we're supposed to support this idea that they should be "different" for the sake of being so.

This isn't a hard thing to get right. Give them a straight back, decent hair options, better faces than the males, and a natural build. That's all they have to do. If instead we get monster-women whose design is such a turn off that they're about as unpopular as WoW's mecha gnomes, then that is objectively a waste of resources that won't make back the money that was spent to create them...
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It only takes a pair of eyes to compare Ronso (the originals) and Hrothgar to see that Hrothgar are inferior in many ways. Especially the Kimahri face. They are way too bulky and for some reason, they have a hunchback despite not having one in FFX. Except the old man ronso who appears in 2 cutscenes, at most.

Imagine if they had made their builds similar to Highlander instead and without all the off-putting factors like the hunch, lack of hair, and Roe proportions. Sounds like something a lot of people might take interest in, but instead they went the "niche" direction and reaped the benefits of that instead, of which there were very little besides 2 years of complaining and demands to fix the race. Even Orcs can stand up straight nowadays. Why not Hrothgar as well?

Why should we repeat bad design choices that the community is actively rejecting and being put off by?.

Even if I think Hrothgar males look good over all, I remember how many people were upset about getting them instead of a playable version of LUPIN for this reason. Hell, I remember YP answering a player asking if they could make Hrothgar skinny earlier this year ... people STILL don't like the body even if they want to play a beast dude.

It's one thing being a niche pick, it's another to be a niche within a niche. With a hunched back, and a monstrous design, they'd probably be less popular than femroe! If I recall, some people within this niche of female hrothgar, don't want something that looks like a khajiit either, but rather something big to "crush" them, and so on. Something closer to their male counterparts. You've got a battle of niche camps, when it comes to femhroth!

This is also something people like to overlook.
"I don't want them to look like WAIFUS (Aka, attractive to the general population)! I want MY kink represented! ( AKA .. Step on me, giant muscle mommy!)" It's all very ... gross to me.

Something can be unique without being condemned to be less popular than Femroe. I don't even see how hunched back is a hill ANYONE is willing to die on, people don't even like the males having that stupid hunch.

But ehh ... I'm the person who started to post furry art here cause of how few people made Hrothgal art, and even I accept that the devs are telling us to expect Mithra x Viera, and that's fine with me. Mural/ concept art Hrothgal looks like something that could be popular (about 50K is where I think the "Popular" line is), if only because there's bound to be a good chunk of Miqote who would like to be "slightly more furry" like Mithra but pretty/ tall like Viera.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I wasn't aware personal attacks were allowed,

Why dont you then = Personal attack

My Lord

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I accept that the devs are telling us to expect Mithra x Viera .

If this is what we are to expect....
Why isn't it finished? They started this before Shadowbringers, and yet Male Viera got finished first.
We didnt fight a Female Hrothgar Queen, we fought a FemRoe Queen in Bozja.
This idea would be so much more popular and make money...but lets not finish it or release it.

You hold onto this so faithfully, even though this narrative crumbles several times.