Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

[xxmiamorecadenza]

I think it's less about some twitter agenda where everything needs to be "fair" to match the males, and simply a like and appreciation for more animalistic female characters. I also can understand the meme to some extent - not because everything has to be about equality... It's more like there are some people who are frustrated that the male characters get "the cool thing", and the females don't get that even though it's something they genuinely wanted. Why create a beast-like race if the females aren't going to be beast-like? And that doesn't mean they have to be exactly as big and buff as the males or ugly. But if they don't have a somewhat big physique or have a face that's too humanoid, then what's the point?

As for the hunch, I don't care either way. Make it an option in cpose or don't.

I genuinely think that the easier it is for a female character to be potentially sexualized or viewed as a partner the more playable it is to a decent chunk of people. Dudes are typically allowed to be ugly while females are naturally expected to be traditionally beautiful . I play what looks genuinely awesome or interesting - not what looks like a viable partner; so my perspective is bound to be different.

If I had to pick between playing a wicked dragon or a petite fairy I’d pick the dragon.

[Senn]

Elezen are quite low on the totem pole as far as played races goes, especially the females. There have been countless threads/posts with people asking SE to "fix" how they look, give them a more mainstream style.

You're right, I would have loved for elezen to be adjusted to look better. Right now they look so bad, like lanky giraffe people......... I know elezens will never be "fixed" since there are people out there who like them as is. So I understand it shouldn't be changed. But whatever, viera are a thing now so it doesn't matter to me wooooooo

[SturmChurro]

I genuinely think that the easier it is for a female character to be potentially sexualized or viewed as a partner the more playable it is to a decent chunk of people. Dudes are typically allowed to be ugly while females are naturally expected to be traditionally beautiful . I play what looks genuinely awesome or interesting - not what looks like a viable partner; so my perspective is bound to be different.

If I had to pick between playing a wicked dragon or a petite fairy I’d pick the dragon.

I'm the type of person who wants to play a good looking male AND female character. It's not like it's mutually exclusive. Something can look good, or "sexy", and still look cool. A hunched back, for example, doesn't look good or cool in this instance, even thematically! Hrothgar are a proud people, especially females.. they should be standing tall!

[aveyond-dreams]

It's a bold move playing a female Elezen whilst also complaining about about niche races. Elezen are quite low on the totem pole as far as played races goes, especially the females. There have been countless threads/posts with people asking SE to "fix" how they look, give them a more mainstream style. But then on the flip side you have your staunch defenders who love their elongated necks, sloped shoulders, angular features, etc and want absolutely nothing to change. Had they been designed in the more traditional 'MMO-elf' way, e.g. the sexy option, they'd be far more popular. Variety is nice though, and not every race has to be designed in a way to appeal to the majority of players.

But anyway, opinions are fun. I love Hrothgar as they are, and I really hope the females feel like they match. Add some feminine touches, sure, but I'm going to be super disappointed if they end up going the Au Ra route (although I strongly doubt they will).

There isn't much that is "niche" about the design of my forum character. An elven witch in a black dress. The only thing that is stopping her from being a Viera is their decision to ban them from using hats. I'd probably receive even more unsolicited messages than I do normally if she was a Viera.

In any case I would welcome with open arms if they remade Elezen to be more in line with Viera proportions, just as I would welcome Hrothgar fixes and a female Hrothgar that looks good. Making things that a lot of people like is generally a good thing. In any case the "match" to Ronsos in FFX are tall females with not very bulky arms. They are not bigger than a femroe.

As others have mentioned I just do not see the value in catering to a niche within a niche when there is a far more appealing alternative route they could go as opposed to doubling down on things people do not like.

It's a matter of reading the room and being honest. Most people do not want to play a race that is built around catering to niches. They want to play something that looks good, especially if it is a female character. I think my female elezen character looks ok, at least when she's wearing that dress which works with her...unique proportions. If they release something that looks bad, then they will not succeed in obtaining my fantasia money, or most people's.

[xxmiamorecadenza]

I'm the type of person who wants to play a good looking male AND female character. It's not like it's mutually exclusive. Something can look good, or "sexy", and still look cool. A hunched back, for example, doesn't look good or cool in this instance, even thematically! Hrothgar are a proud people, especially females.. they should be standing tall!

I disagree. Quadrupeds and bipedal designs with unique postures and builds can still look amazing. Female Charr, for example, look positively wicked. But I personally have a lot of respect for creative creature design; especially when it’s outside the norm.

[Senn]

I genuinely think that the easier it is for a female character to be potentially sexualized or viewed as a partner the more playable it is to a decent chunk of people. Dudes are typically allowed to be ugly while females are naturally expected to be traditionally beautiful . I play what looks genuinely awesome or interesting - not what looks like a viable partner; so my perspective is bound to be different.

If I had to pick between playing a wicked dragon or a petite fairy I’d pick the dragon.

Honestly, I don't know too much about races and sexual dimorphism in other video games. From what I understand, generally the females are naturally shorter and smaller. WoW doesn't do too bad of a job for some of their races like the tauren from what I see, but at a glance, I do notice males tend to have more variety in terms of body types.

[Fukuro]

But whatever, viera are a thing now so it doesn't matter to me wooooooo

hoooo boiii not even 3 weeks from now

[Roda]

I genuinely think that the easier it is for a female character to be potentially sexualized or viewed as a partner the more playable it is to a decent chunk of people. Dudes are typically allowed to be ugly while females are naturally expected to be traditionally beautiful . I play what looks genuinely awesome or interesting - not what looks like a viable partner; so my perspective is bound to be different.

If I had to pick between playing a wicked dragon or a petite fairy I’d pick the dragon.

Mmm, third option: Wicked fey dragon. Not the little fairy guys, but like some terrifying amalgam of nature and cosmic power.

But seriously, I'm in the same boat. I use my characters to express myself, not to satisfy my own aesthetic attraction. And since that "queen" concept art basically looks like a bald version of my current character, it wouldn't really offer anything interesting for me, since I don't see the value in a world populated entirely with my own clones...
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[LisSquid]

There isn't much that is "niche" about the design of my forum character.

According to active players, female elezen is niche. So this is very much a choice you made based on personal preference that the majority said was not an option for them. Pot, kettle.

[Senn]

hoooo boiii not even 3 weeks from now

My hype cannot be contained