White-mage is doomed - and why

[Tokisaki_Kurumi]

With the introduction of sage, WHM probably lost its selfish dps identity for good. Best they could hope for is a niche in burst DPS which their toolkit can strongly support.

[QooEr]

With the introduction of sage, WHM probably lost its selfish dps identity for good. Best they could hope for is a niche in burst DPS which their toolkit can strongly support.

sage and whm both do the exact same potency per minute, going by the media tour potencies

[Acece]

I think whm can have the identity of healing and dpsing at the same time ex assize and lillies, and sage can have healing through damage ex kardia. I think its distinct enough that they can do it.

[Silver-Strider]

sage and whm both do the exact same potency per minute, going by the media tour potencies

Which is a problem because SGE can hold off on healing for longer due to Kardia, so WHM might fall even further behind in terms of its role as a "selfish" healer.

[IllyaPrisma]

sage and whm both do the exact same potency per minute, going by the media tour potencies

They do? Maybe if that minute involves POM, otherwise it doesn't seem like it. Maybe my napkin math is off.

Eukrasian Dosis 700 Potency > Dia 660 Potency
Dosis 330 Potency > Glare 310 Potency
Phlegma is 180 Potency gain over Dosis, and 200 Potency greater than Glare
WHM has Assize within each minute for 400 OGCD damage

For openers:
WHM would have POM
SGE would have both Phlegma Charges

I'm not sure if we can properly calculate how many Dosis/Glare would fit in 60 seconds right now.
WHM is also a more GCD reliant healer, and SGE has a greater supply of healing cooldowns. I imagine SGE will pull ahead in most situations

[GrimGale]

They do? Maybe if that minute involves POM, otherwise it doesn't seem like it. Maybe my napkin math is off.

Eukrasian Dosis 700 Potency > Dia 660 Potency
Dosis 330 Potency > Glare 310 Potency
Phlegma is 180 Potency gain over Dosis, and 200 Potency greater than Glare
WHM has Assize within each minute for 400 OGCD damage

For openers:
WHM would have POM
SGE would have both Phlegma Charges

I'm not sure if we can properly calculate how many Dosis/Glare would fit in 60 seconds right now.
WHM is also a more GCD reliant healer, and SGE has a greater supply of healing cooldowns. I imagine SGE will pull ahead in most situations

Dia has upfront damage of 120 potency then a DoT of 60 for 30s a total of 720 potency.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Dia has upfront damage of 120 potency then a DoT of 60 for 30s a total of 720 potency.

Correct me if I'm wrong: but I remember from the media tour tooltip, they've been nerfed to only have 60p of upfront damage.

[GrimGale]

They do? Maybe if that minute involves POM, otherwise it doesn't seem like it. Maybe my napkin math is off.

Eukrasian Dosis 700 Potency > Dia 660 Potency
Dosis 330 Potency > Glare 310 Potency
Phlegma is 180 Potency gain over Dosis, and 200 Potency greater than Glare
WHM has Assize within each minute for 400 OGCD damage

For openers:
WHM would have POM
SGE would have both Phlegma Charges

I'm not sure if we can properly calculate how many Dosis/Glare would fit in 60 seconds right now.
WHM is also a more GCD reliant healer, and SGE has a greater supply of healing cooldowns. I imagine SGE will pull ahead in most situations

In 60s a SGE can fit 24 GCDs, assuming 2.5s GCD:

0s Dosis II, 2.5s Eukrasian Dosis, 5s Phlegma III, 7.5s Phlegma III, 10s Dosis II, 12.5s Dosis II, 15s Dosis II, 17.5s Dosis II, 20s Dosis II, 22.5s Dosis II, 25s Dosis II, 27.5s Dosis II, 30s Dosis II, 32.5s Eukrasian Dosis, (35s - 47.5s Dosis II x6), 50s Phlegma III, (52.5s-57.5s Dosis II x3).

Timer indication is at the start of the cast.

Total: 2 Eukrasian Diagnosis 2x700= 1400
3 Phlegma III 3x510= 1530
19 Dosis II 19x330= 6270

Total 9200 potency.

[GrimGale]

Correct me if I'm wrong: but I remember from the media tour tooltip, they've been nerfed to only have 60p of upfront damage.

Might be, I checked the current potency, If that's the case then oof

[Shurrikhan]

Correct me if I'm wrong: but I remember from the media tour tooltip, they've been nerfed to only have 60p of upfront damage.

Great, so early refreshes for mobility get even a bit more punishing than was already the case...

I was honestly hoping it'd go the other way, perhaps to a 220 direct and 50-per-tick (or 210 and 45-per-tick if it's losing ~60 potency total in EW).