The story(spoilers)

[Enkidoh]

Negative impact could be small like rude,cruel remarks towards certain npcs, or bandit tactics like preventing uldah from get supplys.

As others have said, play the DRK Job quests (specifically the level 30-50 quests). You'll get your wish.

Or even secretly changing your diety to others or non at all.

There is nothing stopping you being athiest or agnostic character wise as the 'guardian' of the Twelve is basically just a lingering aspect of 1.0 with no actual gameplay or story connection anymore (in 1.0 choice of guardian factored into gameplay by affecting your elemental stats slightly at game start based on the element of the member of the Twelve in question, but elemental stats have now been removed, as well as you could evoke your 'Guardian's Blessing' to boost EXP during levequests, but that was scrapped too. There was also a main story quest in 1.0 that when praying to the stone monuments of the Twelve, when you prayed to the one of your Guardian you got a special ring of that god or goddess).

Now, the only time your choice of guardian factors into gamplay in ARR is during the Ceremony of Eternal Bonding when you and your partner's Guardian's glyphs appear on the altar behind the minister during the ceremony, but again has no actual bearing on anything. So there is absolutely nothing stopping you having no deity you follow, and just ignore the reference in the character sheet as it has no bearing otherwise. Also, there is irony here given who the WoL really is, so I won't spoil that particular detail.

Maybe even go around punching lala characters in the face.

Nothing is stopping you emoting npcs - hells, I play a paragon of peace, justice and compassion, and yet I can't stop myself slapping that damn Mini crockpot dealer in the Gold Saucer in emote every time I get a low payout. And I've seen I'm not the only one (I've seen others do it too!). Either way, you can do this in emote, no it won't have an ongoing result, but that's an RPG for you.

Maybe even add some drinkable rum,whiskey etc and pick up bad habits. Or you know like the one i said cursing and telling off hydelon.

This will never happen. Many countries that the game is available in have tight regulations on how alcohol and drinking are depicted in media and to allow players to engage in drinking (let alone get drunk) would possibly result in tighter reclassifications - and the game actually ran afoul of this once before in 1.0 in a meta way (the original 1.0 Collector's Edition featured a drink tumbler among the items in all countries save the United States, where it was conspicuously absent. This is because of a number of US states having laws against giving away items that could be considered to promote alcohol consumption).

So the same will apply within the game as well, SE simply are not going to risk getting into trouble with countries which would affect the acessability of the game, and thus income.

There is a beer mug/drinking emote for sale on the Mogstation but given the ambiguity as to what is inside it's clear this point still stands.

Also side quest mostly cover history,land mass or how the area lives/functions outside a select few

This is mostly what the real-life Encylopedia Eorzea books are for - they fill in a lot of the missing lore of the world and it's cultures, people, environments and history.

Or maybe secretly crushing and going to spots showing certain npcs respect like niddhogg, emet etc

I get it, you want to be a bad guy or antagonist. Unfortunately, you're playing the wrong game as this is a FF title where you're always only the 'good' guys fighting against an evil organisation or oppressive country, usually an empire. The closest you could get to something like this was the end of ARR's 2.55 story and the first half of HW where you were technically persona non grata on the run from the Monetarists, but given they were well known for being corrupt plutocrats, and Lolorito doing such a poor hatchet job with the aftermath of the Bloody Banquet - it naturally doesn't stick and pretty much everyone who matters in Eorzea does not believe it and continue to treat you as normal). You're simply not going to get this style of gameplay here in FFXIV.

Even ShB's teasing of "become the Warrior of Darkness" was a misnomer, the only 'dark' thing is you bring the night sky back and are not actually evil or even using actual darkness powers at all despite what ShB's opening movie may depicit (it's simply as an alias you adopt because the 'Warrior of Light' label has such a stigma in the First).

You're simply never going to be playing as a 'bad' character in the story, because that's the whole point of being an adventurer in the first place and what seperates adventurers from mercenaries and sellswords - altruism and the desire for the common good, not putting personal gain in front of everything else.

[KageTokage]

Or maybe secretly crushing and going to spots showing certain npcs respect like niddhogg, emet etc

That's basically the entire premise of the level 80 DRG quest.

You and one of Nidhogg's descendants go to honor his memory at the Royal Menagerie with an offering of a flower he was fond of and vow that he be remembered for everything he was, not simply an enemy of Ishgard.

Considering that Emet-Selch is the narrator for Endwalker I'd be surprised he doesn't get a more elaborate send-off, too.

[KizuyaKatogami]

I get it, you want to be a bad guy or antagonist. Unfortunately, you're playing the wrong game as this is a FF title where you're always only the 'good' guys fighting against an evil organisation or oppressive country, usually an empire.

Clearly you’ve never played ff type 0 or ff7 lmao.

[PlushyprincessMusa]

Clearly you’ve never played ff type 0 or ff7 lmao.

You forgot ff8 or ff10 or even ff9 for a good bit

[Iscah]

People are talking about Flow as if it kills the caster but it doesn't.

It doesn't directly kill you but dropping you into the Lifestream may as well be death unless someone knows what happened and has the apparently very specialised ability to track you down and pull you out again before you run out of the willpower to hold your own aether together.

There's also the more physically hazardous chance of landing inside the earth, or over a lava pit, or the middle of the ocean.

So no, Flow itself doesn't kill you, but has a high chance of leading to death all the same.

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

Not all the Crystal Braves betrayed the Scions and Lolorito stripped away their power. It's why they went rogue then into hiding. Also see the Griffin story for more consequences of the betrayal. Go back to Mor as well to see the aftermath of the Crystal Braves as well.

The leaders also suppressed what happened and Lolorito never intended to kill the Scions. He wanted them captured, after that he didn't have a plan as he was more focused on screwing over his rival. Odds are he would have just wanted favors before releasing the Scions.

[Enkidoh]

Clearly you’ve never played ff type 0 or ff7 lmao.

You forgot ff8 or ff10 or even ff9 for a good bit

Ughh, I assure you both I most definetely have played all of the above (and the rest of the FF series). And to reiterate my previous post, even in those titles you are still playing the 'good' guys fighting against an oppressive society, organization or country - evil empire in Type 0, evil megacorp in FFVII (and this in particular they were specifically destroying their own facilities and assets simply to paint the protagonists in propoganda as terrorists, which they really weren't), oppressive dictatorship (who was led by a Richard Nixon copy to boot!) that was really being led in the shadows by an evil sorceress in FFVIII, kingdom with jingoistic aspirations being led on a string by a mysterious arms dealer in FFIX... etc etc.

Yes I admit often the lines about who is really in the right can blur slightly, but it's still usually pretty clear cut that the forces you're fighting against are evil or at least morally grey and pretty much you end up trying to stop no less than the destruction or at least ruination of the world ultimately, which the antagonists in every FF game invariably end up unleashing or instigating. Every single time.

As I said before, I get it, evil is cool, bad guys get all the fun, and they wear the coolest outfits and get the fanciest toys. But you need to look elsewhere if you think this game is going to suddenlly allow you to start slapping people around for no reason other than because it amuses you, slaughtering innocents to show how edgy you are, and throwing in your lot with the evil empire or the black clad ghosts from the past who are stuck between Denial and Bargaining on the 5 Stages of Grief, because it simply will not happen.

[PlushyprincessMusa]

Clearly you’ve never played ff type 0 or ff7 lmao.

Ughh, I assure you both I most definetely have played all of the above (and the rest of the FF series). And to reiterate my previous post, even in those titles you are still playing the 'good' guys fighting against an oppressive society, organization or country - evil empire in Type 0, evil megacorp in FFVII (and this in particular they were specifically destroying their own facilities and assets simply to paint the protagonists in propoganda as terrorists, which they really weren't), oppressive dictatorship (who was led by a Richard Nixon copy to boot!) that was really being led in the shadows by an evil sorceress in FFVIII, kingdom with jingoistic aspirations being led on a string by a mysterious arms dealer in FFIX... etc etc.

Yes I admit often the lines about who is really in the right can blur slightly, but it's still usually pretty clear cut that the forces you're fighting against are evil or at least morally grey and pretty much you end up trying to stop no less than the destruction or at least ruination of the world ultimately, which the antagonists in every FF game invariably end up unleashing or instigating. Every single time.

As I said before, I get it, evil is cool, bad guys get all the fun, and they wear the coolest outfits and get the fanciest toys. But you need to look elsewhere if you think this game is going to allow you to suddennly allow you to start slapping people around for no reason other than because it amuses you, slaughtering innocents to show how edgy you are, and throwing in your lot with the evil empire or the black clad ghosts from the past who are stuck between Denial and Bargaining on the 5 Stages of Grief, because it simply will not happen.

Your assuming that im consindering them evil, or that everyone sees them as evil.

I dont see them as evil just character willing to do anything for their love, in memkry or true justice.

This are not "jokers" that are always evil.

Niddhog wanted to kill all for good reason they betrayed his kin, killed his sister, stole his eyes so honestly he is anti-hero at most.

Emet-selch is a true hero followimg darkness for the greater good.


Honestly I see the scions/hydelon as evil

[Theodric]

On the subject of morality, Yoshi-P had this to say:

Q: With each new expansion new themes are introduced and are focused on. How does the team decide on which themes to focus on with each new expansion?

Naoki Yoshida: The major themes for the expansion would be first conveyed from me as the game’s director to the development team. Although it is somewhat difficult to describe my personal decision-making process it could be summarised as [requiring a sense of] surprise and fun. This contains a dual meaning in that I assess whether as developers ourselves we would encounter surprises while enjoying the production process, at the same time as considering whether the story of the expansion would be exciting and fun for the players. In the last expansion Shadowbringers, I had thought that players must have grown tired of being referred to as a Warrior of Light. I also came up with the idea of reversing the conventional notion of light equating to justice or something holy and darkness equating to evil or something bad to generate a sense of surprise.

The current state of global affairs is incredibly complex and simple two-dimensional theories of good/bad from ancient times can no longer quantify this world we live in. As such, a large factor [that contributed to the selection of these themes] is that I thought I could cultivate new values and a new sense of realisation within myself by changing perspective and carefully considering the other party’s arguments in regard to a given event. Half of the time these things are born from one’s intuition and flashes of inspiration. I guessed as much but it really is hard to explain. (laughs)

Source: https://www.impulsegamer.com/naoki-y...vs-lore-story/

I think the part above in bold is particularly worthy of note and readily applies to previous Final Fantasy titles as well. Especially where modern day concepts of 'good' and 'evil' are concerned.

[Vyrerus]

FFVII Protagonists really weren't terrorists

Uhh... not to be agreeing with Ye Olde villainy proponents, but the heroes in FFVII are most assuredly terrorists. I haven't played the reboot(it's not a remake), but in the original you set bombs in power plants and blow them up, directly blowing up and harming civilians.

Sure, the evil mega corporation drops the Sector 7 plate, and you do try to stop it, and they blame it on you... but that doesn't excuse Avalanche from blowing up two Mako reactors along with everyone and everything nearby.

The intent was morally grey heroes. Square wanted to top the moral ambiguity of amnesiac/slave crown Terra from FFVI incinerating/gassing Narshe guards and their tamed guard beasts.

The feeling from it didn't effect me as a kid, because I didn't even realize what exactly the consequences of blowing up a power plant are, and they don't show the casualties when "good" guys do it(except in gameplay).

As the game progresses, it obviously disembarks from its outset fairly dramatically. You go from being environmental terrorists to hunting Sephiroth/unraveling the Ancients' mysteries, all the while finding out just how deep the rabbit hole is for, "Evil Electric Company really is super evil." But the focus shifts to the alien and supernatural in a way where the dark edge the heroes have in the beginning is blunted.

Basically they don't stay terrorists, but they were terrorists at the start of the game through their actions. Not too mention all of the times Barrett clears rooms by firing his gun arm into the air to scare civilians.

By the time you have your full party it is composed of three Avalanche terrorists(Cloud, Tifa, and Barrett), two Shinra related people(Vincent/Cait Sith), Aeris, Yuffie, and Red 13. Three people who killed civilians at the start of the game while attempting to fight the evil megacorp by committing terrorist acts. Two people who worked/are working for the evil megacorp. Three people who have been directly affected/harmed by the evil megacorp, but haven't blown up any civilians. 5/8ths of your party is morally ambiguous but ultimately heroes, with 3/8ths of it being mostly good. Yuffie does have that whole thievery thing going on.