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    Tanis_Ebonhart's Avatar
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    Ninja seems clunky

    You're lying punished for moving too fast and the system takes too long to register? Your ninjutsu now fails.

    It seems like I have to hold back when playing as Ninja compared to other dps classes.
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    Noraiga Celesteis
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    You have to know what you doing with Ninja or you'll get punished, that's all and i hope the Job stay like that and never get tuned down on complexity !
    Too much job have become boring because they removed mech or because they didn't knew what to do with the Jobs, Ninja got spared.
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    My biggest issue is the server latency
    There are too many times I press my Mudra slightly too quick and not register, end up getting a rabbit
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    Sono Faolain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misutoraru View Post
    My biggest issue is the server latency
    There are too many times I press my Mudra slightly too quick and not register, end up getting a rabbit
    This, honestly.
    But that's it.
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    "The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair, and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noraiga View Post
    You have to know what you doing with Ninja or you'll get punished, that's all and i hope the Job stay like that and never get tuned down on complexity !
    Too much job have become boring because they removed mech or because they didn't knew what to do with the Jobs, Ninja got spared.
    Getting punished for server latency is not complexity. It's asinine design, especially when we have dance steps as a comparison.
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    Funny thing is they "fixed" mudras, use to be way way worst with latency...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misutoraru View Post
    My biggest issue is the server latency
    There are too many times I press my Mudra slightly too quick and not register, end up getting a rabbit
    You'll have to fix your latency problems, because my latency never exceeds 20 ms, I do it very quickly and it always passes, if I have a rabbit, it's because I made a mistake.

    I don't need a VPN or anything like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki34 View Post
    You'll have to fix your latency problems, because my latency never exceeds 20 ms, I do it very quickly and it always passes, if I have a rabbit, it's because I made a mistake.

    I don't need a VPN or anything like that.
    my ping isn't high, not over 100m/s for sure
    I could have two oGCD between each GCD in MCN, very rarely have one not being register
    the issue seem to more obvious/often when using Mudra

    I believe Mudra having more button to press in a quick succession (My issues are always when I use 3 Mudras) is the major cause of the issue
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    Last edited by Misutoraru; 11-12-2021 at 02:32 AM. Reason: add more info

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noraiga View Post
    You have to know what you doing with Ninja or you'll get punished, that's all and i hope the Job stay like that and never get tuned down on complexity !
    Too much job have become boring because they removed mech or because they didn't knew what to do with the Jobs, Ninja got spared.
    That.... Doesn't address the issue.

    I can do much more as Dragoon without having to hold back and don't get punished for it. Such as popping off hard as Dragoon but if I do that as a Ninja my Mudra will get ruined very easily if I even have any latency issues or the game doesn't register my input fast enough.

    Ninja just seems like it wasn't designed as well.
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    Last edited by Tanis_Ebonhart; 11-13-2021 at 01:47 AM.

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    Eristede Kell
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    Pressing mudras too fast is a problem for exactly the reasons described. Given what I understand to be technical constraints, I think that the actual solution is to grey out mudras that have already been used.

    That being said, I actually do think that the mudra system is a good, simple way of capturing the ninjutsu vibe (ala Naruto). For it's flaws, I enjoy it! (There was that one Naruto game back in the day that had you do hand seals using joystick combos - it was a lot of fun but way too twitchy for this style of MMO. The current mudra system is a good balance.)
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