Why can't we all have a House?

[ForteNightshade]

This is likely.

The somewhat frustrating thing about this is they do tend to repeat these mistakes in other systems too. The glamour system has the exact same issue.

Unfortunately, the dev team can be frustratingly stubborn. They'll latch onto an idea and just won't let go even when it isn't working. You see this in job design, with Monk being the stand out example. Six years it took for them to land on what looks to be a meaningful rework. Glamour, as you've mentioned, is another.

[Hammerhorn]

Ive been watching this and I gotta say the housing is designed to keep u paying a sub. Ive played over 10k hours on this wonderful adventure and ive lost 2 houses from taking a break from the game. The last one I stayed up till 2am when they added extra housing snaged it, invested 120mil gil in it and lost it cuz I took a year break. I seen old posts where the Yoshi said you wouldnt lose houses years ago but someone from marketing must of bern like hey if they lose it then they will continue to sub. I must be one of the richest homeless persons living on the streets of Uldah. Ever Quest 2 had some of the best guild housing Ive ever used you could build a castle within a castle because it was instanced housing. This idea of community house and creating this lack of housing is someones baby. I dont care about the nieghbors just my guild. Btw I looked up my old home and the new people bought it for 300mil gil evidently. Just makes u feel bad , I dont play to play house Im here for the raids but I always like to have a guild hall for my teams. We need the option for Instanced housing and community housing so both sides can be happy. Ok white knights assemble.

[Divinemights]

Ive been watching this and I gotta say the housing is designed to keep u paying a sub. Ive played over 10k hours on this wonderful adventure and ive lost 2 houses from taking a break from the game. The last one I stayed up till 2am when they added extra housing snaged it, invested 120mil gil in it and lost it cuz I took a year break. I seen old posts where the Yoshi said you wouldnt lose houses years ago but someone from marketing must of bern like hey if they lose it then they will continue to sub. I must be one of the richest homeless persons living on the streets of Uldah. Ever Quest 2 had some of the best guild housing Ive ever used you could build a castle within a castle because it was instanced housing. This idea of community house and creating this lack of housing is someones baby. I dont care about the nieghbors just my guild. Btw I looked up my old home and the new people bought it for 300mil gil evidently. Just makes u feel bad , I dont play to play house Im here for the raids but I always like to have a guild hall for my teams. We need the option for Instanced housing and community housing so both sides can be happy. Ok white knights assemble.

Sorry to break your little bubble.
Demolition timer is only there because of player community's request.
SE has no interest to use Housing to keep the subscription.
Player community was not interesting with house even by the time player housing function is unable.
A lot of servers still have empty small plots.
It is until gardening becomes a thing then players starting to want house

At the time, the player community want to recycle house plot from players like yourself because of shortage.
So the fact is, it is the player community do not want to see house plot on the hand of people who takes a break longer than a month; not SE.

[Jojoya]

Ive been watching this and I gotta say the housing is designed to keep u paying a sub.

Except you don't have to stay subbed full time to keep a house.

Pay for a month.

Unsub for 6 weeks.

Pay for another month.

Unsub for 6 weeks.

And so on. You're back in time to reset the demo timer so you don't lose the house as long as you make certain enter your house one or two days before your current game time ends.

Not to mention if SE really wanted to tie players to a subscription using housing, they'd make certain there were enough houses for every player who wants one. It's rarely the house itself that players complain about losing. They complain more strongly about losing all the furnishings, especially seasonal event items. Furnishing a house costs a lot more than buying it.

Then of course there are the periods of months were SE suspends the demo timer. If housing was about the subscription money,, the demo timer would never get suspended for any reason short of the game servers crashing and being offline for over a month.

As Divinemights said, it's the players who want the demolition system so that they have a chance to get a house when house owners stop playing.

[Mango2020]

Does everyone need glam?


and that cost seems fair to me.

No more neighborhoods fine with me. Reduced items sure?


A small price to pay for having a house and not needing to keep a sub up when the game becomes too tedious to pay for.

You don't need glams either and glams are easier to fix than a whole housing area.
People are acting like they're entitled to housing when they're not, it's just a bonus thing added on. Yoshi P has already explained why they can't do what players want them to do because of certain limitations. I played arcage before ff14 and they had the same housing limit, you can only get housing now cause a lot of people left.
I don't complain about people owning entire wards as they were probably playing from 1.0 and most likely spent millions of gil to purchase, are we gonna begrudge them the free retainers too?

[Yuumei]

Well the current system is really bad for scalability - if the game population continues to grow explosively they got to commit more and more money to add servers for additional wards (which won't be able to satisfy everyone's desire for a house).
And the sunk cost would make SE resistant to a complete overhaul and redesign of the system.

To be honest i expect to see only band-aid solutions all the way till the game's sunset phase. (by then, it would no longer matter)

[Besame]

You don't need glams either and glams are easier to fix than a whole housing area.
People are acting like they're entitled to housing when they're not, it's just a bonus thing added on. Yoshi P has already explained why they can't do what players want them to do because of certain limitations. I played arcage before ff14 and they had the same housing limit, you can only get housing now cause a lot of people left.
I don't complain about people owning entire wards as they were probably playing from 1.0 and most likely spent millions of gil to purchase, are we gonna begrudge them the free retainers too?

FFXIV game descriptive: "What is Final Fantasy?" Adventure is what you make of it.
Housing
Fashion
The Gold Saucer
Gathering
Crafting
Would you be happy if you never could make a crafter or gatherer because too many players had one? Would you enjoy being barred from the Gold Saucer due to high player content? Would you enjoy staying in the same outfit/armor because they only allowed x number of that armor and other players always bought them up before you could get them?
Think about what you said about not "entitled" to a house.

[Illmaeran]

Think about what you said about not "entitled" to a house.

With a many different politically charged connotations the word entitled has these days, perhaps it might be better and safer to say "..has the unrestricted ability to purchase a plot when they have the money.". You seem like a nice person and I'd hate to see you flamed even more than in the past.

Every player should have the ability to purchase a plot as soon as they have the money to do so, without restriction. To be clear, having to camp a placard with a bunch of other people is not unrestricted, nor is having to buy a shell FC to get a house. Unrestricted does not mean every single plot is available to all players at all times. Unrestricted means there's always at least one plot available at all times, with players being able to walk up to a placard at any time of day or night and purchase the plot. If this means instanced housing or dynamic creation of ward instances, so be it.

[Besame]

With a many different politically charged connotations the word entitled has these days, perhaps it might be better and safer to say "..has the unrestricted ability to purchase a plot when they have the money.". You seem like a nice person and I'd hate to see you flamed even more than in the past.

Every player should have the ability to purchase a plot as soon as they have the money to do so, without restriction. To be clear, having to camp a placard with a bunch of other people is not unrestricted, nor is having to buy a shell FC to get a house. Unrestricted does not mean every single plot is available to all players at all times. Unrestricted means there's always at least one plot available at all times, with players being able to walk up to a placard at any time of day or night and purchase the plot. If this means instanced housing or dynamic creation of ward instances, so be it.

"Entitled" wasn't my word, it was the OPs. As far as flamed, it takes more than posters here to ruffle my feathers As far as nice, I sure am however, I do not defend a gaming company that falls short while I pay for it each month. I have a house, an apt and a FC but I feel for those who post these boards day after day, week after week, month after month with the frustration of not being able to obtain a dream that was presentated as obtainable before purchase. If it's not as it is presented, repost correctly on the description page and apologize to all of us who expected one thing and got another over the years,

[MistyMew]

Why can't we all have a House?

100% agree

Their "reasons" are just disguised excuses. Period.