Thoughts on Relocation removal

[Vahlnir]

Well, if they decide that a lottery is the best solution going forward for all wards...I may never be able to move. I'm glad to have a house at all, and I do like my plot and its location...but I really did want one in Ishgard. My chances will be so low that it won't really matter. It's nice that we CAN relocate should we win the lottery, but as I said, the chances are going to be astronomically low.

[Melorie]

As someone that was fishing for a medium without luck and hoped I could relocate... It stings for a bit tbh. I'm glad they're changing the system and I understand its problems, but yeah knowing how it used to be and that I never really was able to get what I wanted out of it will make me a bit pissed off. Hah I wish this solution was here sooner, but better late than never.
I also kinda wish they could make the timer better as well.

[Burmecia]

As someone that was fishing for a medium without luck and hoped I could relocate...

Something like this for me too. Was thinking of saving some more and entering to lottery for larger. It is unsure situation anyway, might as well go with bang.

[Illmaeran]

I'm a fan of these changes. It's always seemed unintended or against the spirit of the rules, not to mention incredibly frustrating for new purchasers, for people to be able to relocate at any time before the purchase timer is up. While purchasing a plot simply to be able to relocate and skip the availability timer is currently within the rules, in my opinion I a jerk move. Those people have been lucky enough to actually get a plot; don't ruin it for other people. Again, I know it's legal within the current Rules as Written, but perhaps not within Rules as Intended.

Now everyone is on equivalent footing as far as dealing with the timer, and I see that as a good thing.


No more price decrease come 6.1...interesting. It makes me wonder if the new housing is going to be in 6.1.

[Jojoya]

I'm a fan of these changes. It's always seemed unintended or against the spirit of the rules, not to mention incredibly frustrating for new purchasers, for people to be able to relocate at any time before the purchase timer is up. While purchasing a plot simply to be able to relocate and skip the availability timer is currently within the rules, in my opinion I a jerk move. Those people have been lucky enough to actually get a plot; don't ruin it for other people. Again, I know it's legal within the current Rules as Written, but perhaps not within Rules as Intended.

Now everyone is on equivalent footing as far as dealing with the timer, and I see that as a good thing.


No more price decrease come 6.1...interesting. It makes me wonder if the new housing is going to be in 6.1.

Relocation was never against the spirit of the rules of giving players the opportunity of getting a better house. Nothing was being ruined for others as there would still be the same number of plots available, and all but one of those camping would still fail to get the plot (at least the relocator shortened the amount of time they could have been waiting at that plot).

What was against the spirit of the rules was those who abused it solely to reset purchase timers, try to take advantage of the click bots through retainer sales, and the like.

I don't favor removal of the Relocation bypass myself. I think other changes, such as limiting relocation to the first 8 hours of the timer when a plot almost never became available for purchase then increasing the relocation cooldown from 5 minutes to several days would be been better. Then again, now that players don't have the ability to upgrade as soon as a better plot becomes available may reduce overall demand for houses ("if I can't have what I want then I won't get any"). And of course it obstructs resellers who would buy what they could get then hold out to relocate to better plots with a higher resale value.

We still don't have everyone on equal footing when it comes to the purchase timer. There will still be players using the bots to improve their chances. At this point, SE should go all out with lottery only. FCFS wards favor resellers using their third party tools too heavily. Force them to take their chances in the lottery for every plot.

Land Devaluation had been a way to help fill half empty wards by lowering prices enough for players with less gil to be able to afford them. It's now meaningless with demand greatly exceeding supply, plots being purchased before they've devalued more than once and more than enough players having more than enough gil to make the purchase at full price.

It would make no sense to retain Land Devaluation with the lottery since a house would devalue several more times during the lottery period, then the winner would have a fair amount of time to let it devalue further before they would be forced to purchase or forfeit their gil.

We already know that Ishgard is opening in 6.1. YoshiP has told us that several times now. I don't know why you're questioning when it will happen.

[Divinemights]

I'm a fan of these changes. It's always seemed unintended or against the spirit of the rules, not to mention incredibly frustrating for new purchasers, for people to be able to relocate at any time before the purchase timer is up. While purchasing a plot simply to be able to relocate and skip the availability timer is currently within the rules, in my opinion I a jerk move. Those people have been lucky enough to actually get a plot; don't ruin it for other people. Again, I know it's legal within the current Rules as Written, but perhaps not within Rules as Intended.

Now everyone is on equivalent footing as far as dealing with the timer, and I see that as a good thing.


No more price decrease come 6.1...interesting. It makes me wonder if the new housing is going to be in 6.1.

People wants the lottery often lack of in-depth thought on the system.
This lottery system is basically going to hurt new players further.
Not every house owners are bothering to relocate to a new plot; however, under this lottery, what is the harm for me to submit a ticket to the plot I want to try?
Instead of compete with few people, people now going to compete with entire server including those already own the house.
I definitely expecting river of tears after 6.1

Disable relocation won't hurt original plot owners and this new system only gives them more incentive to submit 2 tickets (one personal and one FC)
What is your odd now? lol

[Melorie]

I also feel like the relocation struggle (seeing someone relocate in front you) wouldn't be as hurtful if the timer wasn't this long-rng mess. I don't see why the timer should be that long tbh, given that there is a prime time regardless.

[Arazehl]

Taking away the relocation feature has it's pro's and con's.
Relocaters swiping plot out from under the noses of first time buyers is bad. Yet for an FC who wants to upgrade to a larger size home it's going to be tough.
With all these houses turned into cafe's, pubs, casinos and yes brothels for earning gil, the demand for mediums and mansions have greatly increased.
For the first time in my ffxiv gaming carreer I was offered 300 mil gil for my FC mansion which I flatly refused.
I feel there are too many loop holes left open for players to cheat the system and SE needs to clamp down, regardless how mad people get. Especially in this one area of housing. Restrictions to what is considered an FC needs to be address. An FC is not meant for a single member and so on. The 1 FC rule needs tighened and monitored. SE needs to quit leaving so many grey areas in the system of buying plots.

[MaikoRaines]

I'm fine with this. I say why not give the ones who have been shafted FC/Personal housing a good, fair shot at the new stuff. If I don't get a house in Ishgard it's not the end of the world for me. I hope the most patient, deserving groups get housing this time around!

[Endy_Sinkai]

As somebody who has owned the same Medium sense mid SB in the goblet. I am really sad about this. I had to work hard sense the start of SHB to get enough to relocate. I just got enough in Oct for a Medium Relo and now its not an option anymore.

Being on my server (lamia) its a nightmare to get a house to begin with. I am torn. On one hand I see why its being taken out and I appreciate the consideration for new owners.

However as veteran who has worked hard to get the option to finally move house's only to be denied that altogether feels terrible.

And before any one says anything about not having to go through the timer to get my house. I did sit around for three of my friends houses 6-9 hours each house. To help get their's.

So I know the grind is real. These are still how I personally feel though.

Tldr: I don't think its right to remove an option from veterans house owners like this.