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  1. #11
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    Raven2014's Avatar
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    Ribald Hagane
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    Dude, most of your complains feel like you just invented reasons to complain about, or think it's a problem because it doesn't suit your taste. There is hardly a single "objective" point in any of your post.

    Especially your first point. If anything, that's probably the single most important improvement. What you call "player agency" are simply people are being forced to zombieing. Now people can throw their name in the hat and moving on and you know ... enjoying life, or the game without being forced to camp the place-card. Also people who refuse to bot are no longer at a major dis-advantage, people who can only play limited time of day is no longer at a dis-advantage, people who can not log in the game at work is no longer at a dis-advantage.

    If you call this is not fair, and also from your other point ... I guess the word "equity" and "fair" are not part of your vocabulary.
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  2. #12
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by forumaccount View Post
    Just going to assume you didn't read my post in Its entirety, and you haven't seen the details of the new system.

    What time investment? You mean the days you spent acquiring gill, waiting and searching for a plot, and now the days you'll spend waiting for the plot winner announcement?

    Yes, the longer you spend in the system, actively pursuing a plot, should be weighted, or compensated, for priority. Else, your time investment is criminally devalued.
    I got gil by playing the game. Never needed to go out of my way to earn any, and I'm sitting on 116 mil.

    Also, it's a game, there is no weight on time invested, other than experience in said game (and even that is questionable)
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  3. #13
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    RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I got gil by playing the game. Never needed to go out of my way to earn any, and I'm sitting on 116 mil.

    Also, it's a game, there is no weight on time invested, other than experience in said game (and even that is questionable)
    Never went out of my way to earn gil in game either or dedicated any extended amount of time in game acquiring my first home and moving it to shirogane later when the area opened. I just play and enjoy the game and the gil accumulates on its own. I've even blown a fair amount on the MB leveling my crafting and gathering jobs the lazy way by just buying stuff normally in HQ quality only to hand it off to the GC NPC for the daily supply quests.

    To me if they're treating the time you play this game as some kind of investment that they expect some kind of compensation or payoff from it sounds like they aren't actually enjoying the game. Or are they just upset this lottery doesn't tilt odds in favor of the people that sit around in perpetual AFK mode 24/7 running a bot or script to click the placard 20 times per second?
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  4. #14
    Player lezard21's Avatar
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    Arngrim Hallbjorn
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    Louisoix
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    The changes will make house buying even harder and worse. With only a handful of wards being lottery and the removal of relocation bypass, now everyone going for normal wards will be using auto clickers since there is no longer a risk of someone relocating and setting up a vendor. So if you are a console gamer you are guaranteed to never get a house.

    Either make all wards lottery or don't remove relocation bypass.
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  5. #15
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    Xirean Summit
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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    The changes will make house buying even harder and worse. With only a handful of wards being lottery and the removal of relocation bypass, now everyone going for normal wards will be using auto clickers since there is no longer a risk of someone relocating and setting up a vendor. So if you are a console gamer you are guaranteed to never get a house.

    Either make all wards lottery or don't remove relocation bypass.
    I'm confused on this bit. What is relocation bypass and how does it effect this?
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    Last edited by Xirean; 11-09-2021 at 11:45 AM.

  6. #16
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    The changes will make house buying even harder and worse. With only a handful of wards being lottery and the removal of relocation bypass, now everyone going for normal wards will be using auto clickers since there is no longer a risk of someone relocating and setting up a vendor. So if you are a console gamer you are guaranteed to never get a house.

    Either make all wards lottery or don't remove relocation bypass.
    How will an auto clicker help when, iirc, you can only go in on ONE(1) lottery at a time? And if the person who wins the lottery doesn't build their house in time, a new lottery will start.
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  7. #17
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    How will an auto clicker help when, iirc, you can only go in on ONE(1) lottery at a time? And if the person who wins the lottery doesn't build their house in time, a new lottery will start.
    SE said that they may leave some wards first come first serve while the rest would be subject to a lottery, but they would also be taking feedback as to the direction players want them to go. They are talking about the first come first serve wards I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  8. #18
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    SE said that they may leave some wards first come first serve while the rest would be subject to a lottery, but they would also be taking feedback as to the direction players want them to go. They are talking about the first come first serve wards I think.
    even then an auto clicker will do nothing, new wards have no random timer...
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  9. #19
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    Caur Kagon
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    Siren
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    Ironic, in their wailing and gnashing of teeth the people complaining about housing only made it worse for themselves.
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  10. #20
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    even then an auto clicker will do nothing, new wards have no random timer...
    That is true. Didn't think of that part. My brain is just used to having that timer around. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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