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  1. #81
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    ty_taurus's Avatar
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    Noah Orih
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    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    Trust me I don't. I stopped at 50 when I realized how boring and unfun it is compared to sch/whm.
    Cards, crowns, divination and healing??? At 50 no sir.
    the bait never ceases
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  2. #82
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    AFuzzyMu11in's Avatar
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    Tiramisa Damsela
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    Behemoth
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    the bait never ceases
    I realize now that ff14 community when they can’t understand someone else’s opinion or thought process defaults to calling someone bait. I guess it’s just a form of lack of understanding or mental exposure to understand.
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  3. #83
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    Nemene Damendar
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    Midgardsormr
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    "AST can't be meta because it's too hard for Sylphies to figure out more than one button" isn't an opinion. It's gibberish.
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  4. #84
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    Gridania
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    Shinonome Sanada
    World
    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 92
    Don't tier lists or metagaming generally assume that people play the stuff at a very high or nearly perfect level, anyway?
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  5. #85
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    Character
    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Static meta: AST/SCH

    Casual meta: WHM/SGE

    While WHM did get nerfed in certain areas its simplistic design is still very new savage healer friendly over AST due to not having to worry about raid buff alignment. SGE and SCH might just be asthetic choosing but SCH is really really good however there are some players that just refuse to play SCH due to the fairy management and possible ghosting.
    (0)

  6. #86
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    Iedarus Meridus
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    Midgardsormr
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    Scholar Lv 100
    From what I can see, as long as SCH and AST are the only healers with raid buffs/debuffs, they'll always be meta. Not like meta matters that much anyway since it only applies to speed clearing.
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  7. #87
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    Except AST is terrible design. You are forced to constantly weave and manage multiple systems it's insane.
    Not liking it/difficult to play & master =/= terrible

    Not only its busy,but its also fun, rewarding and powerful.
    Fortunately, WHM exists for people who don't like clicky jobs and prefer more straighforward gameplay.
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    Except AST is terrible design. You are forced to constantly weave and manage multiple systems it's insane.
    Such a terrible design that they're making every other healer more in line with it in Endwalker!
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  9. #89
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    Jase Shepard
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    Malboro
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    AST/SCH

    Damage is king, and I think SCH will bring more rDPS than SGE. AST because…..obviously.
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  10. #90
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    Tiramisa Damsela
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    Behemoth
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    "AST can't be meta because it's too hard for Sylphies to figure out more than one button" isn't an opinion. It's gibberish.
    it’s “too busy” you don’t get time to learn fights and enjoy the game while playing it because you are managing your own abilities too much
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